[CPT-FGC] Re: Hi

  • From: Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 09:52:55 +0000

I think the movie was amazing.

But I dont hold Comic book movies up to oscar winning starndards.  I got what I 
expected from a supes movie(unlike the previous supe movie) and thought it was 
great.

From: numotd@xxxxxxxxx
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 11:42:32 +0200
Subject: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Maybe because the new superman movie wasn't that great? lolz it seem rushed 
somehow :/
Not sure about Ras and batman tho...
Movies have flaws...haven't seen a movie without any flaws before...i mean look 
at the dark knight rises...he was banging the bomb everywhere when he was on 
the bat flying thingy...wasn't that thing like highly explosive and brittle? 
lolz


special effects/action in movies outweighs logic and accuracy...i mean look at 
Michael Bay's transformer, everything is filled with highly explosive gas and 
gasoline.



On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair 
<alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:










How did Batman not become an anti-hero? He lets a man die. It doesn’t even seem 
to bother him later. The death of Dent does bother him, but less because it
 happened on his watch and more because of what Dent became.
 
Superman has murdered someone. He’s outright broken the guy’s neck in a fight. 
That’s okay though because he feels bad about it. Extreme last resort? I dunno
 about that. Supes from the comics is genius level intelligence. He’s got all 
the knowledge from most of the universe in his head. He’s fighting against an 
equal in terms of strength and abilities, so because of that, he has to kill 
the guy? With all of his
 (and Zod’s) unreal abilities and intellect, the best that they can do is 
murder.
 
The fact that you can view two characters as not being anti-heroes, despite the 
fact that they’re both outright murderers, is an issue. Neither of them killed
 the enemy by accident. Neither of them were in positions of immediate and life 
threatening danger. Maybe you can argue that Supes was, but Zod had lost that 
fight already.
 
Maybe you’re right, and they’ll use this as the turning point for Supes where 
he decides that never again will he kill. I just wonder now that they took the
 line in the sand for these characters and shifted it, why bother with a line 
at all?
 
 


From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Wynand-Ben

Sent: 05 December 2013 11:14 AM

To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi


 


Its not like they became anti-heroes tho.





Killing was a extreme last resort in supes movie...  and it clearly bothered 
him immensely.  They didnt mention him being averse to killing in the movie 
tho...  they could even use this as the event that pushed in into the "I shall 
not kill" mindset for future
 movies.





Dunno about the Batman stuff, can easily think of situation that he would be 
"forced" to kill but cant remember the movie being that way.  Should be way 
easier to get bats into that position than superman imo.








From: 
alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx

To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi

Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 09:01:52 +0000

That’s fine, maybe the concepts of Superman and Batman are outdated.


 


In the comics, the idea of killing the bad guys is something that they think 
about. Batman specifically doesn’t kill anyone. After
 Bain breaks his back, someone else takes over being Batman. After that guy 
lets a villain die, Bruce Wayne freaks out and takes back the mantle of the bat.


Similarly Superman does face retardedly strong enemies, like Zod. The whole 
point of Superman is that he is the absolute in terms
 of virtue. That’s why he leads the Justice League. He’s the only out there 
that doesn’t fall from grace. Sure, having someone that pure is a bit boring 
for a film, but that’s what his character is.


 


I find it a bit sad that they’ve taken the two characters out there in the DC 
universe who will never kill for any reason, and have
 both of them just give up and become murderers. Batman doesn’t kill Ra’s al 
Gul out of self defence. He lets the guy die. Superman kills Zod because he 
can’t think of a better idea.


Great.. and that’s the best that the world is supposed to offer?


 


Maybe it’s just that there are enough anti-heroes out there and heroes with 
massive flaws. Was it too much to ask for one that doesn’t
 just give up and take the easy route?
 




From:
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On Behalf Of Wynand-Ben

Sent: 05 December 2013 10:52 AM

To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi


 

I think its lazier writing thinking up some campy reason why superman could get 
away with not killing. 




Against "normal" opponents sure, hes godlike compared to humans so he wont need 
to resort to lethal means... but against some of the other DC powerhouses or 
another Kryptonian?  Fuck off... im not a kid anymore.





Just sounds like some old cheesy leftover of what heroes of old could 
accomplish.  Beat the baddy, save the girl, everything is always fine.  Cheezy 
imo.

I just dont think that would work anymore in modern entertainment.





From:
alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx

To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi

Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 08:39:57 +0000

It’s lazy writing. Either that or Zack Snyder just wanted to stamp his own feel 
on it.


Either way, they got rid of one of the defining characteristics of Superman. 
He’s supposed to be more than just a vigilante. He’s
 not supposed to be a killer. There are heroes that walk that line – Wolverine, 
Cap’n, Punisher and alike on the Marvel side. On the DC side, Lobo, Wonder 
Woman, GL. They’ve all killed. Bats and Supes are supposed to be different. No 
excuses.


 


 




From:
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On Behalf Of Wynand-Ben

Sent: 05 December 2013 10:34 AM

To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi


 

I still dont see the problem with Supes killing...



Would not have been a paragon of virtue either if he willingly just lets people 
die that he could save





From:
alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx

To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi

Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 07:11:46 +0000

I’m still pissed off with what DC has done with their films. Although I liked 
the idea of a more serious, less cartoony approach
 to both Batman and Superman, I seriously dislike the fact that they’ve both 
effectively killed enemies in their films – Batman lets Ra’sal Gul die in 
Batman begins. Supes takes out Zod. Great. They’ve both dedicated themselves to 
being absolute paragons of
 virtue and both first films end with them failing to uphold that.
Green Lantern was a joke.


 


Anyways... Still have no real idea who they could cast as Wonder Woman. Finding 
an actress who looks the part – someone who could
 take Batman in a fight without breaking a sweat – is a bit of an issue.
 


 



From: Ryan Williams [mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx]


Sent: 05 December 2013 8:35 AM

To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Cc: Donaldson, Alasdair

Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi

 

Not Wonder Woman material. There are far better picks.

 


Ben Affleck as Batman = fail.


 


 



 

On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair 
<alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:




http://m.ign.com/articles/2013/12/04/gal-gadot-cast-as-wonder-woman-in-batman-vs-superman


 


Not sure if I agree with all the casting choices here. Then again, I’m sure 
they know what they’re doing.


 




From: Donaldson, Alasdair


Sent: 05 December 2013 8:08 AM

To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi




 
Thought about getting Path of Exile. Game looks good. Just don’t have the time 
to play it though.


 




From:
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On Behalf Of lindsey kiviets

Sent: 05 December 2013 7:25 AM

To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi


 

morning peeps,

 

downloaded path of exile off steam last night. game looks good for f2p game. 
system similar to torchlight but more of diablo3 style.

 

kingdoms rise looks good too. create your own knight, looks like a cross 
between an mmorpg and dmc.









Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 17:55:08 +0200

Subject: [CPT-FGCse ] Re: Hi

From: nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx

To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
...more like a constipated rectum, but yeah, a toilet with a broken cistern 
would be similar.


LB just wantsfor BB what I want for MK.

On 4 Dec 2013 17:51, "Stephen Scheidel" <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:



LB is like a toilet.

Because he is full of shit.

 


Humor.



 

On 4 December 2013 07:19, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:




get this game man , otherwise you letting everyone know im the best.









Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 16:53:29 +0200

Subject: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi

From: ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx

To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv0Wc6ZNG3c



Original:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbOwNfqgF04


 

On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:58 PM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:




I be there too.








Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 14:56:49 +0200

Subject: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi

From: nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx

To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


 

I'm working, but I'll be there after


 

On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:



Provided there is a sesh on Saturday, count me in.


 


On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair 
<alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:








It’s the run down to the holiday break, so we’ve got a load of work to finish 
before we shut down.



Also, I spent most of yesterday catching up on random forums and generally 
stuffing around, so trying to make up for that now.



 

Is there a session this Saturday?



 

From:
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On Behalf Of Nicholas Robertson-Muir

Sent: 04 December 2013 2:06 PM



To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi

 


 

Workin' like crazy here, looks like I'm not the only one.


 

On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair 
<alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:




What Steam sale?



It’s gone... I missed it...

 

 

From:
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On Behalf Of Ilitirit Sama

Sent: 03 December 2013 12:15 PM



To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi


 

Any games worth getting during the Steam Sale?











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