Re: DRE: CTS community mail

  • From: Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 17:00:44 +0200

The roots of the education problem can be traced to a simple change in the
education system - Outcomes Based Education (OBE).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outcome-based_education#South_Africa

Remember Bush's failed "No Child Left Behind" policy?  This was based on
similar ideas in the name of Human Rights (after all, everyone is born
equally intelligent and hard working, right?).  To put it simply, the old
education system nurtured hard work and talent.  That's why classes got
split into students who had similar grades.  Now this is politically
incorrect, but it worked (there are better systems though).  Under this
system, everyone in the same class learned at relatively the same rate.
OBE abolished this and forced everyone to progress at the same rate as the
lowest performing students.  If one student failed, the entire class was
kept back (they tweaked this rule a bit).  What happened?  Teachers gave
students fake grades to get them to pass.  That's how you end up with kids
in high school who can't read or write.  Stupid idea doomed to failure.

Thank goodness they've finally replaced this horrible system.



On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>  If you want to know what the current problems with the education system
> are, the main ones are schools lacking facilities (failure to deliver
> textbooks etc.), teachers spending most of the day either drunk or sleeping
> with pupils (or both), or the major issue, which is trying to get away from
> outcomes based education. It’s a system that could never work for us, and
> the implementation of it was a retarded idea. It’s one of the reasons that
> we have kids hitting matric who can’t read or write. They’ve moved away
> from it (finally), but it will take a while to fix that massive screw up.
>
>
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> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Di Lhong
> *Sent:* 09 February 2015 4:45 PM
>
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
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> Maybe they're doing something wrong with their investment...just building
> schools and providing chairs and tables doesn't make people smarter. Didn't
> SA pass rate in schools became an issue recently?
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> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>  Except that’s not it. For the first 10 years after the ’94 elections,
> South Africa spent more on education (as a % of GDP) than any other country
> in the world.
>
> We have a lot of problems in our country – some of them in our education
> department, but for all our government’s failings, you can’t say that they
> haven’t tried to educated people.
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> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Nicholas Robertson-Muir
> *Sent:* 09 February 2015 4:31 PM
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>
>
>
> Di, nail on the head my friend.
>
> On 9 Feb 2015 16:28, "Di Lhong" <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  That's not a bad idea.
>
>
>
> Some government will never fully support education. They want to keep the
> majority stupid so it's easier to win them over during elections.
>
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> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 4:19 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  We have too many conservatives masquerading as progressives in
> government.  They're conservative about all the wrong things (like
> conserving their position in power), and progressive about equally wrong
> things (like giving people fish instead of teaching them to fish).
>
> In some American states they found that paying teenage girls to stay
> child-free during their high school years actually eased economic strain on
> the cities.  There were fewer uneducated mothers who had to quit school to
> support their fatherless kids, plus all the negative stereotypes that go
> along with that.  We need to do stuff like that here but it will never
> happen.
>
>
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> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>  Almost all of our problems are solvable by population control but for
> some reason everyone in SA needs to have 9 kids or some shit.
>
> Fuck it's so idiotic.
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> On 9 February 2015 at 16:08, Donaldson, Alasdair <
> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>  It’s always lousy to watch serious potential squandered. If that just
> meant not having the best net access in the world, or dealing with random
> corruption, it would be fine, but things in our country aren’t cheerful for
> a lot of people.
>
> Worldwide (mainly Africa) the number of people living below the breadline
> has been decreasing pretty much year on year since the last ‘80s.
>
> In South Africa, the figure is increasing. For a country that doesn’t have
> a war ongoing or major natural disasters, that’s pretty sad.
>
>
>
> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Stephen Scheidel
> *Sent:* 09 February 2015 4:04 PM
>
>
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>
>
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> Ag it's just sad.
>
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>
>
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> On 9 February 2015 at 16:01, Donaldson, Alasdair <
> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  Yeah, listen to the person who’s never here. I think Jag is the only one
> on this mailing group who spends more time out of the country than I do.
>
>
>
> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Stephen Scheidel
> *Sent:* 09 February 2015 3:59 PM
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>
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> Yeah Stu knows whats up.
>
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> On 9 February 2015 at 15:56, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
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>  Salie don't care bout da collective.
>
>
>
> He just wants to be king turd of shit island.
>
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> On 9 February 2015 at 15:51, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  Depends...  the fact that people have the perception of the country
> helps with the property market in Cape Town along the coastal regions.  You
> could buy an apartment for R10m in Sea Point 3 or 4 years ago and sell it
> for R20m now.  That's what all the foreigners are doing.  I get offers from
> foreign buyers for my place a few times a month even though it's not on the
> market.  A friend of mine got an apartment roughly for what I paid for
> mine, but got offered triple the amount in monthly rent from a foreigner.
>
> Personally, I think it would be cool if the country goes to shit for like
> 6 months so that I can buy more property for dirt cheap.  And then rent it
> out at prices only the 0.1% can afford when it gets back on its feet.
>
> But that's just me being a selfish prick.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 3:45 PM, richard moorcroft <
> greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> I think south Africa will be super shit poor in the next 2 years,, this
> country is super fucked in my opinion,. Well not yet but let's see in 2
> years from now
>
> On Feb 9, 2015 3:36 PM, "Stephen Scheidel" <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  The stupidity,selfishness and greed are sickening.
>
>
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> On 9 February 2015 at 15:31, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
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>  Eskom CEO's just sit and rake in money.
>
>
>
> ON street level my buddy Jacques does electrical.
>
> By law there are certain things only council can do wrt connecting some
> stuff.
>
>
>
> One example is (happened last week on a site jaq was on) The council needs
> to come connect the earth for a new house.
>
> This is a simple job that one person could do in 30 mins.
>
> council rocked up with 4 guys in a van who had to borrow Jaqs tools .....
> and ask what to do and where to do it (no idea or care what their jobs are)
>
> Once their job was done they connected some phase thing for regular
> appliances
>
> then connected a multiplug to that and finally plugged in their portable
> fridge and sat and played cards for the rest of the day.
>
>
>
> SA Government is fucking rotten from the inside out all the way down to
> council level.
>
> Obv not everyone ever but ya'll know what i mean.
>
>
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> On 9 February 2015 at 15:07, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  So according Koichi, elphelt is still fine after the first loketest.
>
> Says she became a little weaker but she still stronger than other
> characters.  Except for Millia.
> Claims other tough matchups for Elphelt is Ky and Sin.
> He mentions Sol and Zato becoming weaker against elphelt as well.
>
> Elphelt can still "win".
>
> Could be inaccurate cause they were google translated tweets.
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> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 14:38:02 +0200
> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> *lol*
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> On 9 Feb 2015 14:16, "Ilitirit Sama" <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  Priorities
>
> https://twitter.com/momochi212/status/564507805218922496
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> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Di Lhong <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>  Nice.
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> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>  Trivia for today.
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> Ever wondered why the sign for a dollar is an S with a line through it?
>
> Originated from a "piece of eight", or *peso de ocho*, which was the
> Spanish dollar.  The plural of Peso was Pesos, or Ps.  Eventually they
> thought it would be a cool idea to merge the P and the S (wtf).  And then
> that eventually became the dollar sign we know today.
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