Keith and Company,
I used to do tons of custom painting. Between 1960 and 1985 I painted
more than 1200 engines along with building a number from scratch. One
thing I did was confirm the lighting that the locomotive would be
operating under and we had three sets of lights in the spray booth.
Incandescent, normal florescent and daylight florescent lamps.
It really is amazing the different colors you can get with the
different lights. I once did the what I thought was the weathering
job of life time. It was a really nice spring day and I sat outside
in the shade and weathered an engine. Inside it not only lost most of
its magic it looked purple in the florescent shop lights.
I would suspect that CP Maroon would be one of those kinds of colors
most effected by different lights.
The above was not a hint for paint work, I don't do it anymore,
unless its an engine I built and then I am starting to prefer it be
my own. At 72 I am starting to get to the point its time to start on
my own models. Like the little Business car.
My son is starting to do most of the business now, I just hang out
and make suggestions on all the things he should be cutting dies for.
Jerry Kitts
Foothill Model Works
Willits California
On Apr 1, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Keith Brownfield wrote:
Last year I painted some cars CP Maroon and a few Pullman green, the results
were less than pleasing as the colors were to dark. The problem was not the
paint or the painter, but the fact that I painted them out doors in
sunlight. In sunlight the colors look correct, but on a layout with
florescent lighting the colors were too dark. I striped the cars, lightened
the paint and painted them again. The results were excellent as under a
dimmer light the cars took on the correct colors. I have also done this with
my GN equipment which has proved to be satisfactory color wise. My advice?
Don't paint under a bright light as it will fool you every time. Oh yes I
did use Soo maroon and have never had anyone question the color of the cars
for correctness, but then maybe that's because I live south of the Canadian
boarder.
Cheers,
Keith
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From: cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of dave
hill
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 2:46 PM
To: cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [cpsig] Re: CPR vs Soo Maroon
CPR maroon like all reds fades with the sun and how . got to remember there
was no uv protectant used on those cars but a good wash down with oxolick
acid or however you spell it would restore the colour a lot . Agood friend
used to wash down car 13 former car Cape Race it was amazing how the
brillance of the paint would come back so theres another factor regular
cleaning . In the 40,s very often into the late 50,s there was not the
demand for the polished image too bad but thats history regards David Hill
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From: "W. A. (Dale) Wilson" <dale.wilson@
<mailto:dale.wilson%40sympatico.ca> sympatico.ca>
To: <cpsig@yahoogroups. <mailto:cpsig%40yahoogroups.com> com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [cpsig] Re: CPR vs Soo Maroon
When travelling through Kentville on the Dominion Atlantic in 1967, Isympatico.ca>
noted two heavyweight coaches kept for backup to the RDCs then in
service whose "CPR Red" had faded to mauve. Since what I saw was the
side most exposed to sunlight, I expect the other side of the cars
would have been closer to the original.
On 31-Mar-09, at 10:40 AM, soomodels wrote:
If I read this right, I should not be too ''particular about keeping
the maroon consistent''. In fact, having different shades of maroon
in the same train would be prototypical, Right?
Since there are no colour photographs of Soo passenger cars, no one
can tell what the right colour should be for any cars. Even if there
were any such colour photographs, they would be faded by now. Even
the real thing would have faded over time and weather....
Even the reference colours are inconsistent it seems.
Red is probably the fastest fading colour. Maroon would have likely
faded to a darker colour.
Dale Wilson <dale.wilson@ <mailto:dale.wilson%40sympatico.ca>
Nickel Belt Rails, Box 483, Station "B", Sudbury, ON, P3E 4P6
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