When issue’s with Dan DeCarlo covers began outselling others, Archie made his
style the house style and all other artists were encouraged to imitate him
(other than Lucey and a few others who were very established.) This adds to the
confusion because some of the newer (at the time) Archie artists who were told
to imitate Dan were quite good at it. Sometimes you have to look at things like
poses, hands, and general storytelling to discern if it’s Dan or not. It takes
a little attention to detail, but it’s not really that difficult. But I saw a
Jetta page (Standard, not Archie) sell on Heritage recently that was by Fred
Eng and it was listed as being by DeCarlo. Not even “attributed” too. I agree
that for the 33% fee, Heritage needs to do a better job with their IDs. If they
made the same mistake with other “serious” artists, heads would be exploding.
Can you imagine what would happen if they attributed a Herb Trimpe page to
Kirby?
On Jan 5, 2021, at 11:25 AM, yellowkd@xxxxxxx wrote:
Yeah at 33% fee mark up you expect a little better on the identification. I
wish I could be more sure on their recent IDS. I own a Tim Tyler's luck
Sunday traded to me years ago as a Raymond - My friend Tom Roberts did the
Raymond bio- and had access to his records - mine is the week after Raymond
quit! (a lot of it doesn't look much different than the one the week before!
But any artist starting on a strip is usually told to make it look like the
preceding artist. Heritage has or had one a few weeks later attributed to
Hogarth some one i had never heard having done work on the strip. One more
thing more to research but I am hoping that this time they are right!
Best George
From: "Trevor Pearson" <tapearso@xxxxxxxxx>
To: comicartl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2021 11:18:48 AM
Subject: [comicart-l] Re: Heritage errors in attribution
Not Goldberg — it’s by Bob White. Dan Parent helped with the ID.
https://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=1431916 ;
<https://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=1431916>
At the time I thought it didn’t look like DeCarlo but I liked it and trusted
HA.
The most common misattribution I see is Goldberg as DeCarlo, though.
I’ve got a few Goldberg pieces that I bought which were labeled as decarlo.
Most off of eBay where I expect that kind of thing and didn’t pay heritage
prices for them.
My expectation for heritage is to correctly identify art, though. With the
fees they charge and their standards it should be possible.
On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 10:10 AM yellowkd@xxxxxxx <mailto:yellowkd@xxxxxxx>
<yellowkd@xxxxxxx <mailto:yellowkd@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
Was your cover by Goldberg? There was one recently that looked like the
Goldberg covers that came out in the 1970's. A Goldberg I sold years ago (ie
I knew it came out of Goldberg's garageas I bought it from the guy who bought
skids of art from Goldberg) I saw recently listed as a DeCarlo cover but I
forget where - whether it was on a sale site or on www.comcis.org
<http://www.comcis.org/>
George
From: "Trevor Pearson" <tapearso@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:tapearso@xxxxxxxxx>>
To: comicartl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:comicartl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2021 11:02:25 AM
Subject: [comicart-l] Re: Heritage errors in attribution
I’ve noticed this too. I got burned by them on an Archie annual cover that
was initially listed as by DeCarlo and then changed after the fact to say
‘attributed’. This was a few years ago.
I’ve since gotten a bit better at identifying art by DeCarlo rather than
trusting them and I 100% mistrust the attributed designation.
For me ‘Dan DeCarlo (attributed)’ is now a proxy for ‘unknown Archie artist’.
On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 9:37 AM Bill Morrison <bill.littlegreenman@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:bill.littlegreenman@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I’ve noticed a disturbing trend in auctions of Archie art at Heritage.
Several lots have listed "Dan DeCarlo (Attributed)” as the artist when the
art is clearly by another artist and shows no sign of Dan even touching it.
I’ve emailed Heritage about these errors but to no avail. I’m wondering if
they have someone in-house who does the attributions of art, or are they just
taking the word of the person who’s putting the art up for auction? It seems
like someone, whether Heritage or the seller, is trying to drive up sale
prices on art by lesser artists.
https://comics.ha.com/itm/original-comic-art/complete-story/dan-decarlo-attributed-reggie-s-wise-guy-jokes-15-complete-1-page-story-heave-peeve-ori/a/122102-13411.s?type=lotlink--bidnotice-tracked-dailystatus
<https://comics.ha.com/itm/original-comic-art/complete-story/dan-decarlo-attributed-reggie-s-wise-guy-jokes-15-complete-1-page-story-heave-peeve-ori/a/122102-13411.s?type=lotlink--bidnotice-tracked-dailystatus>
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