George,
All examples of comic art. Gag cartoons are comics. As are editorial cartoons.
Also: all published.
Defining “what is a comic?” is a debate that’s been going on since before more
than a few of us were born.
That’s not really my point though. Again, I’m in no way presuming to dictate
what people should like or collect. But I think most of us, like the famous
bit about pornography, know comics art when we see it.
And there’s a lot of stuff on CAF that isn’t comics art, no matter how liberal
your taxonomy.
Mark Nevins
PS I’d love to read that Marston-on-Petty material.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 15, 2021, at 11:30, yellowkd@xxxxxxx wrote:
Yeah a lot of Vargas pinups had tag lines and were essentially panel
cartoons! As is my Orson Lowell lesbian wedding illustration which is a
humourous editorial cartoon (one the yget they vote they will just marry each
other!)
Marston who co-created Wonder Woman by the way did a psychoanalysis of each
Petty Girl in True magazine
Bes tGeorge
From: "Malcolm Bourne" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: comicartl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 11:23:53 AM
Subject: [comicart-l] Re: Art Days - James Martin!
`Well the Sistine Chapel art definitely tells a story (although last time i
was there, they tried to stop me even taking a photo inside, never mind
running off with the originals…..) - likewise the Bayeaux Tapestry, etc….
I guess we all know what comics are, really, but I believe the important
thing is not to worry too much about the definitions and just enjoy looking
at it. I never quite figured the ticking-the-extra-box bit, I’ll have to
start doing that for illustration. i have recently acquired a couple of
Vargas pieces, for example, which i presume could go into both but if i
decided to put them on line, i’d use CAF.
Malcolm
On 15 Jan 2021, at 16:19, yellowkd@xxxxxxx wrote:
The Sistine Chapel as continuity art......or any of those other wacky Italian
murals in Venice- those folks often tattooed their pubic buildings.
But then Goya is often credited as doing early comics - where editorial and
panel cartoons fit in has always been one of those academic arguments
George
From: "Malcolm Bourne" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: comicartl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 11:10:57 AM
Subject: [comicart-l] Re: Art Days - James Martin!
I think it’s perfectly ok to put any sorta-related art on CAF. Everyone can
choose what to look at. I mean, it’s up the Bill in the end and the ‘rules’
for Caf and the ‘rules’ for this list (do we even have any since we moved
service? Alex is the king of that question!) aren’t the same thing. But
whereas I know some collectors/list-members might see only published comic
book art as ‘viable’, many, I’d say most, have less tight boundaries and are
happy with sketches, commissions, illustration art, book covers….hell, if
someone here bought a Rembrandt or part of the Sistine Chapel, and wanted to
put that up, I’d be happy to look….
Malcolm
On 15 Jan 2021, at 16:03, <phillipdanielanderson@xxxxxxxxx>
<phillipdanielanderson@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Is it officially cool to have an illustration section of your CAF now? I
missed that. I don’t have a ton, but am happy to put up what little I have.
On this specific topic. Cool piece Ray!
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Behalf Of yellowkd@xxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 7:02 AM
To: comicartl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [comicart-l] Re: Art Days - James Martin!
Besides Illustration is now a component of CAF including a lot of work by
illustrators who did not work in comics (and while there is a lot of
crossover there are also many who worked solely in illustration.) George
From: "RAYMOND CUTHBERT" <rcuthber@xxxxxxx>
To: "comicartl" <comicartl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 9:48:19 PM
Subject: [comicart-l] Re: Art Days - James Martin!
Hi Mark:
James Martin worked with Neal Adams at Continuity Studios. So unless all art
by comic artists that was not done for a comic book is barred, this is art by
a comic book artist.
Best wishes!
- Ray Cuthbert
From: "Mark Nevins" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "comicartl" <comicartl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 8:38:20 PM
Subject: [comicart-l] Re: Art Days - James Martin!
And this is related to comic art, how?
Mark Nevins
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On Jan 14, 2021, at 16:35, RAYMOND CUTHBERT <rcuthber@xxxxxxx> wrote:
The model is Susanne Benton, a retired Canadian actress known for her film
roles as General Dreedle's WAC in Catch-22 (1970) and Quilla June Holmes in A
Boy and His Dog (1975). In 1972, she appeared in the Andy Griffith film, The
Strangers in 7A, credited under her birth name, Susanne Hildur.
Best wishes!
- Ray Cuthbert
From: "Malcolm Bourne" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "comicartl" <comicartl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 3:30:50 PM
Subject: [comicart-l] Re: Art Days - James Martin!
Wow it’s beautiful! (Who is it???) when James hits these bang on, the results
are so wonderful
Malcolm
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On 14 Jan 2021, at 21:28, RAYMOND CUTHBERT <rcuthber@xxxxxxx> wrote:
James Martin - Susanne 1967
On December 21st I contacted James and sent along photo reference for this
possible commission. James responded positively and enthusiastically right
away: "Absolutely! Could do something really special with that! May get to
this one sooner than later! ;)" By December 31st the commission was completed
and it was mailed right after the New Year's holiday, arriving here January
13th.
This lovely commission is 11" x 14".
https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1694572
I have two other pieces by James which are in that same Gallery which folks
may wish to check out. Comments are most welcome!
Best wishes!
- Ray Cuthbert