[ciphershed] Re: Signed System Driver

  • From: "Jason Pyeron" <jpyeron@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ciphershed@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 02:56:53 -0400

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Niklas Lemcke - ???
> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2014 2:40
<snip/>
> > > Right now we have a web certificate from StartSSL, with 
> the validation
> > > for a wildcard certificate in progress. Is there any 
> reason you would
> > > consider StartSSL not trusted?
> > 
> > Bad phrasing on my part. I was listing "requirements for a 
> cert" not saying a
> > given cert was from an untrusted CA.
> > 
> > I was un aware from reading the mailing list that there was 
> progress or even a
> > start on the web cert. Good to hear.
> > 
> > I was mentioning it because the current cert is issued to
> > https://blade01.coletteral.net, a name based virtual host.
> 
> 
> https://www.ciphershed.org also serves the ciphershed.org cert. What
> page exactly serves the coletteral cert?
> 

Interesting, it seems that you are using a newer extension in TLS than IE
(please forgive me, my day job revolves around it) and openssl supports, so the
server is sending the generic x509 cert. Firefox, chrome and curl get the
"proper" cert.

Browsing https://ciphershed.org/ (https://www.ciphershed.org/ redirects to
ciphershed.org)

From IE / openssl I get:

jpyeron@black ~/Desktop
$ openssl x509 -text < ciphershed.org.crt
Certificate:
    Data:
        Version: 3 (0x2)
        Serial Number: 1014254 (0xf79ee)
    Signature Algorithm: sha256WithRSAEncryption
        Issuer: C=IL, O=StartCom Ltd., OU=Secure Digital Certificate Signing,
CN=StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA
        Validity
            Not Before: Mar 29 21:04:49 2014 GMT
            Not After : Mar 30 19:28:06 2015 GMT
        Subject: C=DE,
CN=blade01.coletteral.net/emailAddress=2be90008dcb54152a50b8d75c07d531e.protect@
whoisguard.com
        Subject Public Key Info:
            Public Key Algorithm: rsaEncryption
                Public-Key: (4096 bit)
                Modulus:
                    00:b5:b6:b1:0e:79:38:e0:4a:b3:27:0f:e2:c1:08:
                    c2:e0:2e:88:a1:66:f1:02:2c:08:ae:6e:d1:13:5f:
                    8b:5c:c5:d2:00:ff:b4:e6:bb:57:88:05:0b:21:2e:
                    a0:83:76:f3:ac:dc:96:45:70:3a:79:c0:6b:b5:07:
                    e6:71:d0:82:fa:4e:5c:84:9b:20:9d:33:02:f4:7e:
                    b0:83:82:97:26:6c:c6:8a:8e:17:db:cb:f0:81:93:
                    b0:e3:c4:7c:62:fd:15:d4:a1:32:01:82:22:61:f7:
                    3f:27:63:04:a2:fe:a0:89:db:dd:8b:ec:e5:79:73:
                    59:66:45:41:8c:31:67:d4:8c:ef:61:ca:4f:6c:17:
                    b1:68:b6:c1:19:52:a5:f8:0e:8e:fd:ef:41:54:10:
                    ac:6f:ef:78:44:e4:79:0e:0f:a2:e5:4a:84:fd:0a:
                    3a:97:d2:22:3d:2d:c0:ef:00:5c:3a:9e:e8:01:01:
                    90:11:8c:9e:f1:a9:5b:49:01:31:96:9d:fc:0b:6a:
                    fe:46:98:3f:a7:ac:3b:47:9f:e0:7c:33:35:e6:8d:
                    83:69:80:c9:d7:69:1f:69:55:89:dd:b4:9e:76:e2:
                    da:22:0d:2f:10:85:6e:4c:55:78:22:7a:e7:05:26:
                    ac:71:38:09:56:c4:d2:71:f3:fd:e4:22:3b:e1:b6:
                    4d:b8:13:61:4f:05:c4:ab:4b:0c:a6:43:4f:9d:02:
                    d5:72:ac:41:ae:e2:61:a4:ce:a3:15:d0:49:27:e5:
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                    ec:0b:86:fe:ca:0e:cd:67:37:93:63:ad:6b:76:0e:
                    55:eb:a6:94:d9:d1:ef:25:1b:d2:c2:6c:53:a2:ba:
                    f4:36:59:cc:96:ee:ca:00:e3:cf:6e:09:56:ed:d8:
                    ed:d3:c7:20:bc:76:c8:86:61:96:f0:e5:43:a4:c8:
                    60:a5:8f:59:15:41:b5:f7:68:eb:14:3c:67:07:f6:
                    fb:4a:74:28:91:18:20:56:85:bf:30:83:1a:a0:2e:
                    50:62:69:9e:d0:4e:ef:39:f9:86:f9:03:d0:54:67:
                    15:81:fb:d6:9e:a3:11:6d:10:35:90:72:06:47:29:
                    04:16:ff:21:df:a6:64:38:88:3a:a7:69:e8:94:d3:
                    80:a1:c2:2e:bd:62:79:20:9f:c7:cb:c4:7c:4c:0f:
                    ae:34:13:19:e9:11:fa:20:8c:fd:1f:c5:a3:cb:f1:
                    b1:b9:17
                Exponent: 65537 (0x10001)
        X509v3 extensions:
            X509v3 Basic Constraints:
                CA:FALSE
            X509v3 Key Usage:
                Digital Signature, Key Encipherment, Key Agreement
            X509v3 Extended Key Usage:
                TLS Web Server Authentication
            X509v3 Subject Key Identifier:
                71:B2:41:7C:E2:1B:E2:D4:A3:FC:46:4A:BE:1A:2E:FA:5F:DB:F2:A0
            X509v3 Authority Key Identifier:
 
keyid:EB:42:34:D0:98:B0:AB:9F:F4:1B:6B:08:F7:CC:64:2E:EF:0E:2C:45

            X509v3 Subject Alternative Name:
                DNS:blade01.coletteral.net, DNS:coletteral.net
            X509v3 Certificate Policies:
                Policy: 2.23.140.1.2.1
                Policy: 1.3.6.1.4.1.23223.1.2.3
                  CPS: http://www.startssl.com/policy.pdf
                  User Notice:
                    Organization: StartCom Certification Authority
                    Number: 1
                    Explicit Text: This certificate was issued according to the
Class 1 Validation requirements of the StartCom CA policy, reliance only for the
intended purpose in compliance of the relying party obligations.

            X509v3 CRL Distribution Points:

                Full Name:
                  URI:http://crl.startssl.com/crt1-crl.crl

            Authority Information Access:
                OCSP - URI:http://ocsp.startssl.com/sub/class1/server/ca
                CA Issuers -
URI:http://aia.startssl.com/certs/sub.class1.server.ca.crt

            X509v3 Issuer Alternative Name:
                URI:http://www.startssl.com/
    Signature Algorithm: sha256WithRSAEncryption
         9d:a4:95:f1:0c:2a:39:6b:9c:5e:f1:07:b6:c9:2c:8c:81:43:
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         72:ff:19:ab:a1:dd:d4:f2:15:2e:af:52:7d:d9:5b:63:ba:e6:
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         64:ed:d0:94:20:de:c5:d9:da:09:30:b6:4c:b1:6a:16:9b:cd:
         1e:1b:68:46:ad:cc:da:eb:8d:2e:84:89:c6:5d:a1:97:f3:66:
         47:38:10:23:40:58:34:23:d3:05:6e:fc:7b:33:36:18:8a:45:
         8b:11:31:90:cf:28:01:f0:c2:ff:c8:33:6a:e5:b8:c8:33:21:
         9c:fe:52:92:a4:b3:9b:80:0b:30:7e:06:33:d3:82:43:e3:83:
         04:cf:41:e1:9b:07:20:22:08:d0:c0:5f:d2:05:5f:7e:6e:6d:
         ad:69:d9:d6:0a:42:4f:64:e4:b2:77:16:24:d5:d3:af:63:05:
         8a:99:a9:91:a2:57:41:16:38:e6:cf:4b:1a:bb:ff:ca:f8:15:
         ba:1a:05:27:de:58:f5:d1:2e:46:a4:0d:e5:cb:13:ef:06:3f:
         1c:24:c9:61:8a:60:37:03:b4:c1:6b:4f:d5:f0:37:55:72:41:
         07:ba:48:e5
-----BEGIN CERTIFICATE-----
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From Firefox, chrome and curl I get:

jpyeron@black ~/Desktop
$ openssl x509 -text < mail.ciphershed.org.crt
Certificate:
    Data:
        Version: 3 (0x2)
        Serial Number: 1108440 (0x10e9d8)
    Signature Algorithm: sha256WithRSAEncryption
        Issuer: C=IL, O=StartCom Ltd., OU=Secure Digital Certificate Signing,
CN=StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA
        Validity
            Not Before: Jun  5 22:42:33 2014 GMT
            Not After : Jun  6 08:25:33 2015 GMT
        Subject: C=DE,
CN=mail.ciphershed.org/emailAddress=niklas.lemcke@xxxxxxxxx
        Subject Public Key Info:
            Public Key Algorithm: rsaEncryption
                Public-Key: (4096 bit)
                Modulus:
                    00:f9:ac:c2:78:b7:21:2a:72:b6:88:eb:c5:70:a9:
                    c9:f1:93:f5:40:2e:a3:ef:85:56:22:75:79:12:a9:
                    22:9a:dd:01:e8:d3:f7:5e:b9:ad:42:c6:58:71:c1:
                    da:e9:80:5f:76:7c:c4:86:e5:5e:27:49:13:01:bb:
                    fd:81:8c:27:65:4e:16:25:e4:15:bc:65:1c:4d:43:
                    9a:bf:67:7f:a2:2b:bd:94:9b:03:8d:eb:b6:ae:d9:
                    72:85:f0:47:a5:b1:f6:7a:15:d0:35:65:5c:43:3f:
                    7a:f9:22:a7:08:93:4d:2d:ae:e5:3e:f7:13:c3:3a:
                    2f:27:b9:27:fd:50:5a:d3:84:21:3a:78:10:1e:40:
                    f7:13:db:5a:57:e2:99:a8:65:5e:23:85:16:0c:96:
                    d7:6c:e1:07:15:7c:0a:75:6e:69:d8:b6:61:ee:5b:
                    f4:07:c9:83:0b:87:9c:c9:e0:e4:39:28:35:2a:90:
                    0c:83:e9:88:7a:e2:76:8c:6d:32:69:ef:f5:21:86:
                    5d:bd:b0:8d:70:be:08:03:6f:da:ba:de:7c:61:a0:
                    42:0d:51:45:8b:02:24:10:8f:68:e2:dc:33:11:a0:
                    4f:e6:20:b8:91:f1:7b:a1:6f:f7:8e:1c:7b:92:e0:
                    aa:94:41:a1:22:a6:cc:bf:a7:19:f1:ae:cf:d7:46:
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                    22:dd:3c:c8:01:4b:95:64:b7:6f:86:a5:b3:59:78:
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                    54:f9:1e:fb:dc:2a:51:17:4a:60:d3:48:c7:27:4d:
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                    be:e2:fd:54:41:5a:ea:ad:7b:4c:fe:9d:8c:47:c4:
                    24:c2:7d:86:ba:e0:bf:1e:73:8b:50:2a:c7:e5:88:
                    de:a3:7f:26:ba:c7:eb:a9:a4:70:fb:e0:31:d2:46:
                    90:34:87
                Exponent: 65537 (0x10001)
        X509v3 extensions:
            X509v3 Basic Constraints:
                CA:FALSE
            X509v3 Key Usage:
                Digital Signature, Key Encipherment, Key Agreement
            X509v3 Extended Key Usage:
                TLS Web Server Authentication
            X509v3 Subject Key Identifier:
                2B:B9:BA:21:AB:C0:CA:5A:FD:92:1E:2F:67:FA:86:2A:BA:EE:1A:E3
            X509v3 Authority Key Identifier:
 
keyid:EB:42:34:D0:98:B0:AB:9F:F4:1B:6B:08:F7:CC:64:2E:EF:0E:2C:45

            X509v3 Subject Alternative Name:
                DNS:mail.ciphershed.org, DNS:ciphershed.org
            X509v3 Certificate Policies:
                Policy: 2.23.140.1.2.1
                Policy: 1.3.6.1.4.1.23223.1.2.3
                  CPS: http://www.startssl.com/policy.pdf
                  User Notice:
                    Organization: StartCom Certification Authority
                    Number: 1
                    Explicit Text: This certificate was issued according to the
Class 1 Validation requirements of the StartCom CA policy, reliance only for the
intended purpose in compliance of the relying party obligations.

            X509v3 CRL Distribution Points:

                Full Name:
                  URI:http://crl.startssl.com/crt1-crl.crl

            Authority Information Access:
                OCSP - URI:http://ocsp.startssl.com/sub/class1/server/ca
                CA Issuers -
URI:http://aia.startssl.com/certs/sub.class1.server.ca.crt

            X509v3 Issuer Alternative Name:
                URI:http://www.startssl.com/
    Signature Algorithm: sha256WithRSAEncryption
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         15:de:8c:86:3d:82:93:c4:b3:0e:78:6e:6f:f7:0b:d5:e4:5e:
         6c:87:30:ab:2d:12:37:e1:7a:f9:81:1c:9d:3b:76:8f:84:1b:
         4b:53:35:10
-----BEGIN CERTIFICATE-----
MIIHRzCCBi+gAwIBAgIDEOnYMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBCwUAMIGMMQswCQYDVQQGEwJJ
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