OK, I searched on Google to get information about Unisys' licencing policy, and they did change it's policy regarding websites. Their new policy still still states that any website can use GIF's if they are produced with a licenced image editor tha contains a licenced LZW algorithm. The $5000 hype that is going on since 1999 has to do with using GIFs that were created using UN-licenced software. The LZW patent expires in 2003, and I think this is just e knee-jerk reaction from Unisys to make a last buck. Basically, it is old news, and IF Unisys had gone through with their intended $5000 licencing, we would all know about it by now... The reason the first case has yet to emerge, is that Unisys made a rather unlawfull assumption: They make one serious error in their policy... they speak of "contributory infringement"; ie, if I recieve a GIF in my email, and I post it on my website, I am "guilty" of "contributory infringement". By their reasoning, I am expected to asume that the GIF image was produced using software using an UN-licenced LZW algorithm. In doing so, Unisys makes the biggest legal mistake they can make: asuming bad intention. By law, any action is deemed lawfull unless proven otherwise. Therefor, I can usume that any GIF image sent to me, is created using licenced software. It is up to Unisys to prove otherwise. I am not ready to give up use of GIF images, instead I say, slap them back with their own methods. I am therefor going to include the following legal statement on calmira.org: "ANY GIF IMAGE ON THIS WEBSITE IS CREATED USING LICENCED SOFTWARE, WHICH IN TURN CONTAINS LICENCED IMPLEMENTATIONS OF THE LZW ALGORITHM. BY USING LICENCED SOFTWARE, CALMIRA.ORG HAS MET IT'S REQUIREMENT FOR USING GIF IMAGES ON THIS WEBSITE. ANY GIF IMAGE SENT TO CALMIRA.ORG, IS ASUMED TO BE CREATED WITH LICENCED SOFTWARE USING LICENCED LZW IMPLEMENTATIONS. BY LAW, ANY CLAIM OF "CONTRIBUTORY INFRINGEMENT" IS NULL AND VOID UNTIL IT HAS BEEN PROVEN IN A COURT OF LAW THAT GIF IMAGE IN QUESTION IS CREATED USING UNLICENCED SOFTWARE. ONLY THEN MAY PATENT HOLDER REQUIRE LICENCING FEES FROM CALMIRA.ORG." So there... :) Any comments welcome. -- Erwin Dokter mailto:edokter@xxxxxxx http://members.home.nl/edokter To unsubscribe, send a message to listar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe calmira_tips" in the body. OR visit http://freelists.dhs.org