On Saturday 18 January 2003 08:17 pm, you wrote: > Yes, get a web site going. Decide on a name. But, please don't start > from scratch. Another project started from scratch and it will be > another 10 years. If you've followed the thread, you should know we don't want to start everything from scratch. We want to send a proposal to all the authors/ex-authors of other CAD efforts, be they dead, dormant, whatever and try and bring as many people and as much ideas and code together as possible. Although, often, a second effort competing product can spur improvements via competition, to date, there seems to be over a dozen attempts which is just too much of a dillution of limited CAD programming resources. Despondent and disillushioned programmers have fallen away. United we stand, too divided we fall. Endless talk without action isn't effective either. There has been a good couple of weeks of discussion. I don't want to see it go on indefinetely with no concrete move forwards. Regards...Martin