[bvipilots] Re: Final Message Before Defeat...
- From: Robert Cezar <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 15:19:03 -0700
Hi,
As I indicated in a previous post, in the next release of IYP (currently in
BETA test mode), when the following conditions are met:
1. BVI mode is ON
2. B V I A T C is ON (by default)
3. SuperATC is invoked
the ATC window remains open for the entire session.
You can download and install the BETA version to test it is you'd like.
Regards,
Robert
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Jody McKinniss <jlove42010@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> Robert, in your test audio to me, I did not hear you issue a command
> to open the ATC window. So I am wondering at what point you opened
> the window. I guess what I am asking is, after the flight has been
> loaded, when the sound of the plane starts, and after "captain, it's
> your plane...", should I immediately say, "toggle ATC," or should I
> wait until Michelle says "get IFR clearance."
>
> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Robert Cezar <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Upon reflection, I believe the simplest way to address this issue is to
> simply leave the ATC window always open as described in the current
> documentation for the new SimpleATC.
> >
> > The documentation reads:
> >
> > ============================
> > NOTE: In the Blind Pilot mode, the ATC Window remains open at all times
> while in flight. This feature can be enabled and disabled. SeeVoice
> Commands > Blind Pilots/Visually Impaired area for details.
> > ============================
> >
> > Instead of just in-flight, I will leave it open all of the time.
> >
> > I will add this to the final release of 4.1.0.266
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Robert
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 6:00 AM, Tony <tonys_groups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Give it a go.
> >>
> >> At least with 13 you have the OCR functionality should you need it.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: bvipilots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> bvipilots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> On Behalf Of Jody McKinniss
> >> Sent: 28 April 2012 10:32
> >> To: bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [bvipilots] Re: Final Message Before Defeat...
> >>
> >> I am using JFW 11, but I could use 13 if need be.
> >>
> >> On 4/27/12, Tony <tonys_groups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > And you Jody? Which version of JFW?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > From: bvipilots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > [mailto:bvipilots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> > On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
> >> > Sent: 27 April 2012 23:27
> >> > To: bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Subject: [bvipilots] Re: Final Message Before Defeat...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Both my brother and I are using the latest which is version thirteen.
> >> >
> >> > HTH
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states "that a service dog beats a
> >> > cane paws down any day of the week."
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > From: Tony <mailto:tonys_groups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >
> >> > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 6:12 PM
> >> >
> >> > To: bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >
> >> > Subject: [bvipilots] Re: Final Message Before Defeat...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > What version of JFW are you using?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > From: bvipilots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > [mailto:bvipilots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> > On Behalf Of Jody McKinniss
> >> > Sent: 27 April 2012 23:04
> >> > To: bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Subject: [bvipilots] Re: Final Message Before Defeat...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Interesting. JFW never tells me "ATC." Exactly what are the correct
> >> > settings for JFW to accomplish this? I wonder if I have JFW set so
> >> > that it can't tell me. If, indeed, JFW should tell me in its current
> >> > state, then this could very well explain the original problem I have
> >> > been having...the state of the ATC window is incorrect.
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Ron Kolesar
> >> > <kolesar16417@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi Robert.
> >> >
> >> > Please correct me if I am wrong, or a fellow BVI pilot who's using
> >> > JAWS can correctly me if I am wrong.
> >> >
> >> > But I have notice while flying that JAWS wil tell us without doing
> >> > anything when it is switching to ATC.
> >> >
> >> > At least I've heard it say from time to time ATC.
> >> >
> >> > So maybe it is switching in and out of the ATC window.
> >> >
> >> > But I could be wrong on this.
> >> >
> >> > Now I need to go stress test the latest beta.
> >> >
> >> > HTH.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states "that a service dog beats a
> >> > cane paws down any day of the week."
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > From: Robert Cezar <mailto:robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >
> >> > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 1:21 PM
> >> >
> >> > To: bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >
> >> > Subject: [bvipilots] Re: Final Message Before Defeat...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > REGARDING: could be a way for michelle to tell those of us who are
> >> > blind the current state of the ATC window
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Yes. I can address this issue as soon as I have completed the
> >> > development of the next release which has a lot of updates users are
> >> anxiously awaiting.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Robert
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Jody McKinniss
> >> > <jlove42010@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > An idea then. Maybe there could be a way for michelle to tell those
> >> > of us who are blind the current state of the ATC window. Like she
> >> > does with the simulator. I.e., when we issue the command "ATC," or,
> >> "toggle ATC,"
> >> > Michelle could say "the ATC windows is now open and in view," or, "the
> >> > ATC window has now been closed."
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Robert Cezar <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > REGARDING: Is there a way for a sighted person to see whether the ATC
> >> > window is open or closed?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Yes.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > REGARDING: when I tell Michelle to get the local weather, doesn't that
> >> > open the ATC window?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > No. The ATC window will be wherever it is.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > REGARDING: when the next command, "Charlotte clearance delivery," is
> >> > spoken, ATC window should already be open.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Not necessarily.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > REGARDING: Obviously Michelle interacts with the ATC window...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Not exactly. The Microsoft simulator opens and closes the window at
> >> > various points in time.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > REGARDING: In other words, how do I get all the sounds from FSX and
> >> > IYP to be recorded as well
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I use fraps, which can be purchased at http://www.fraps.com
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > NOTE: Please understand that SuperATC does not guarantee the state of
> >> > the ATC window.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Robert
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Jody McKinniss <jlove42010@xxxxxxxxx
> >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi Robert,
> >> >
> >> > Quick question before I try this: Is there a way for a sighted person
> >> > to see whether the ATC window is open or closed? This way I will know
> >> > for sure the state of the ATC window when I issue the commands.
> >> > Although, now that I think about it, when I tell Michelle to get the
> >> > local weather, doesn't that open the ATC window? Therefore, when the
> next
> >> command, "Charlotte clearance
> >> > delivery," is spoken, ATC window should already be open. Obviously
> >> > Michelle interacts with the ATC window, because after I say, "ready to
> >> > copy," she executes something, but instead of hearing clearance
> >> > delivery, I hear the weather info again. So if a sighted person can
> see
> >> the active
> >> > state of the ATC window, this might be helpful. I am also going to
> >> create
> >> > a recording of my the next attempt, if I can figure out how you're
> >> > accomplishing it. When I record, my voice can be recorded, but I am
> >> > not quite sure how to record other sounds from the PC. In other
> >> > words, how do I get all the sounds from FSX and IYP to be recorded as
> >> well"
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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