[bvipilots] Re: Final Message Before Defeat...
- From: Robert Cezar <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:08:38 -0700
Hi,
Well, I tried it and it worked perfectly. Please listen to the attached
file.
I think what is happening is that your ATC window is not in the correct
state when issuing the command. i.e., I believe it is closed when it should
be open.
This personifies the very thing that I have addressing in the new version,
namely, the ATC window is always in the correct state.
So, try it again and change the ATC window state.
Regards,
Robert
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Jody McKinniss <jlove42010@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> Ok Robert, this is my final message, my final attempt. I hate to accept
> defeat, especially when I see absolutely no reason why this failed.
> However, because I can find no error here, I have absolutely no idea what
> is causing the issue now. Take a look at this, and if you have no idea at
> all, then I guess I have to feel beaten by a machine, lol. I will not
> trouble you further after this; I simply do not understand what I am doing
> wrong here. I worked for a while last night after listening to the file
> you recorded. I was going to record a file for you, to prove that my
> attempt was exactly verbatim with respect to your test file. However, I
> think the CVRT will suffice for this case. So what I will do is this: All
> words spoken by you in your test recording will be bracketed with
> parentheses. My CVRT will simply be as is. Your words will come first,
> then mine. For expediency, I am only copying the relevant portion of the
> CVRT, as I did all checklists to this point. Here goes:
>
> (Test: Robert said: "What is our call sign?")
> Me: 04:12:37
> You said:
> what is our call sign
> (test: Robert's copilot said: "our call sign is Cessna November, one, 7,
> 6, Charlie, Mike. The short form is Cessna 6, Charlie Mike.")
> Me: 04:12:41
> Michelle said:
> Our call sign is cessna november. one. seven. six. charlie. mike. The
> short form is cessna six. charlie. mike.
> (test: Robert said: "Charlotte clearance delivery.")
> Me: 04:12:41
> You said:
> charlotte clearance delivery
> (Test: Robert said: "Cessna November one, 7, 6, Charlie, Mike.")
> Me: 04:12:58
> You said:
> cessna november one seven six charlie mike
> (Test: Robert said: "IFR clearance to 5 whiskey 5.")
> Me: 04:13:05
> You said:
> i f r clearance to kilo romeo delta uniform
> (Test: Robert said: "Ready to copy.")
> Me: 04:13:10
> You said:
> ready to copy
> The only difference herein is the ICAO code, 5W5 versus KRDU, which should
> have absolutely no effect on outcome, since clearly Michelle understood
> me. Just to let you know what actually occurred. Just before I tried the
> request for IFR clearance, I got the local weather info and set the
> altimeter as always. After I said the above (as you can see, it was
> verbatim except for the ICAO code), instead of giving me the requested
> clearance, the weather info was repeated to me. This happened several
> times. So I wonder if Michelle is not switching to clearance delivery when
> I say "Charlotte clearance delivery." That is the only thing I can think
> of. Do you have any ideas at all? Your test went fine, so surely the
> change in ICAO didn't cause the failure, since the flight plan was properly
> loaded.
> On a side note, regarding flight plans: It is impossible for a blind
> person to access the ACARS window. Yes, I can tell Michelle to open the
> window, but this window is not accessible to JFW. Is there any way to
> address this please?
>
> P.S. While this message explicitly addressed Robert directly, if anyone
> on this list has successfully used Super ATC, I would appreciate feedback
> from them as well. If Robert cannot see anything wrong here, possibly
> someone who has succeeded might be able to weigh in with some thoughts.
> Many thanks, and sorry for the inconvenience.
>
> A VERY, VERY, VERY FRUSTRATED PILOT,
> Jody
>
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