[BNU] Re: Bookshare inaccessibility, how much is due to Windows CE 6?

sammie clay <sammied1@xxxxxxxxxxx> · Sat, 25 Oct 2014 13:11:50 -0400

Also, if Book-share is deliberately doing this, the US government

should be notified. Tax dollars pay them lots of money each year

to keep their books accessable to the visually impaired

community.

Sammie D.  Clay

----- Original Message -----
From: Lucy Sirianni <lucysirianni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 08:51:23 -0700

Subject: [BNU] Re: Bookshare inaccessibility, how much is due to

Windows CE 6?

I understand that the BrailleNote has some serious limitations,
but there's another problem here: Bookshare, like Apple, is very
deliberately choosing not to prioritize universal accessibility.
To the best of my knowledge, the site was compatible with all of
the devices mentioned below, and Bookshare is now choosing to
discontinue that compatibility for reasons that are unclear and,
I suspect, insufficient.  I strongly encourage anyone who will be
negatively affected by this change to contact Bookshare as well
as HumanWare with concerns.

----- Original Message -----
From: RAJMUND <brajmund2000@xxxxxxxxx
To: d.prater@xxxxxx
Date sent: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 16:34:44 +0100
Subject: Re: [BNU] Bookshare inaccessibility, how much is due to
Windows CE 6?

Hello,
If I'm not mistaken, IOS 8 bought its own bugs, am I right? If
so, apple hasn't got the most accessibility, has it? When Voice
over disappears, and need sighted help to get it back, I will not
call that accessible.  It used to be, but right now, it isn't,
what it used to be.  Just to stay on topic, people have troubles
with their braille displays, and bluetooth keyboards, as of now.
What is worse than anything, is the fact, that apple knew all
these bugs through the beta, and didn't fix them.  Hmm, wonder
why? One thing's for sure.  No matter what will happen, note
taking devices will always have the most accessibility, since
they are made with braille in their  mind.  And this is the
topic, where its a personal preference.  You say apple, I say
notetakers, others say windows, others say android, and so on.
Think, its whatever works best for who.
----- Original Message -----
From: Devin Prater <d.prater@xxxxxx
To: "amynick100@xxxxxxxxx" <amynick100@xxxxxxxxx
Date: Saturday, 25 October 2014 4:19 pm
Subject: Re: [BNU] Re: Bookshare inaccessibility, how much is due
to Windows CE 6?

Which is why we should abandon ship before it sinks.  Right now,
iOS has the lead on accessibility.

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 24, 2014, at 8:00 PM, amy a <amynick100@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I am only speculating, but I think it's an economical issue.
Since there is obviously not nearly as much demand for these
notetakers as there is for mainstream computers, they do not have
as much money to make updates.

----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Greco <peter.19.greco@xxxxxxxxxxx
To: brajmund2000@xxxxxxxxx, braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,
lucysirianni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 08:30:50 +1030
Subject: [BNU] Bookshare inaccessibility, how much is due to
Windows CE 6?

Is this due to the Apex using CE 6?
It seems that every time a website is updated it becomes less
accessible with the Apex.
I did try asking Patrick Wallace about this, and reading between
the lines, if you can do that with a verbal conversation, I
think
that the Apex and perhaps other notetakers are going to be
refreshable braille displays for mainstream devices.  I have
said
for some time that these units are going to be "museum bound".
Perhaps we're all "lusers" rather than "users"!
You can hear Patrick's interview, go to
www.rphadelaide.org.au/links/VE.mp3
Technology is moving just way too fast for these devices, that's
an observation not a criticism!
The I-phone 4 s which was out barely 3 years ago is now regarded
as ancient!
How can the Apex which is 5 years old compete?
Again, an observation not a criticism!
Peter

----- Original Message -----
From: RAJMUND <brajmund2000@xxxxxxxxx
To: braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,lucysirianni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 22:33:52 +0100
Subject: [BNU] Re: [blindkid] Important Info for Bookshare Users
with Braille Notes!

Hello,
Sorry to say this, but HIMS has a bookshare app for like 2
years,
so even though their app is not working right now, it will not
effect them.  Humanware should of done one for ages.  oh well,
what can we do? Its just going to be like 9.1.  They'll release
a
thing, that you install, and will be able to use bookshare
again.

----- Original Message -----
From: Lucy Sirianni <lucysirianni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Friday, 24 October 2014 10:28 pm
Subject: [BNU] [blindkid] Important Info for Bookshare Users
with
Braille Notes!

Hi all,

I just received this rather upsetting information from another
listserv and thought it might be of use to others on this list.
I hope that those of us who rely on Bookshare's services and who
prefer or need to use the site with a BrailleNote can make both
Bookshare and HumanWare aware of how extremely problematic this
incompatibility is.

Lucy

---- Original Message ------
From: Allison Hilliker via blindkid <blindkid@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blindkid] Important Info for Bookshare Users with
Braille Notes!
Date sent: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 20:56:20 +0000

Hello Everyone,

The updated Bookshare website is set to launch next week.  While
there are many improvements that will help our members, we are
aware of potential bugs with select partner technologies.

The BrailleNote will not be able to download books directly from
Bookshare.  We recommend that you download books from Bookshare
prior to our planned website downtime on Monday, October 27 at
5PM Pacific Time.  Afterwards, you can continue to read
Bookshare
books by downloading from a separate device like a computer and
transfer them to your BrailleNote.

HumanWare has been notified about this issue, and we are working
with them to find a solution to use our updated website.  Thank
you for your patience.

Best,
Allison Hilliker
Bookshare Operations Associate

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