Yeah but when users report bugs to apple apple fixes them. When users report bugs to hw, hw does nothing.
----- Original Message ----- From: rajmund <brajmund2000@xxxxxxxxx To: braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,justforlistmessages531@xxxxxxxxx Date sent: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 22:42:06 +0000Subject: Re: [BNU] Bookshare inaccessibility, how much is due to Windows CE 6?
Hello,But hw isn't good at beta testing, while apple used to be good at it.
----- Original Message ----- From: Jessica Brown <justforlistmessages531@xxxxxxxxx To: brajmund2000@xxxxxxxxx, bn list <braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Sunday, 26 October 2014 10:39 pmSubject: re: [BNU] Re: Bookshare inaccessibility, how much is due to Windows CE 6?
There is a difference between hw and apple. Hw does not fix there
software bugs, and for the most part, apple does fix them. ----- Original Message ----- From: RAJMUND <brajmund2000@xxxxxxxxx To: d.prater@xxxxxx Date sent: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 16:34:44 +0100 Subject: [BNU] Re: Bookshare inaccessibility, how much is due to Windows CE 6? Hello, If I'm not mistaken, IOS 8 bought its own bugs, am I right? If so, apple hasn't got the most accessibility, has it? When Voiceover disappears, and need sighted help to get it back, I will not
call that accessible. It used to be, but right now, it isn't, what it used to be. Just to stay on topic, people have troubles with their braille displays, and bluetooth keyboards, as of now. What is worse than anything, is the fact, that apple knew all these bugs through the beta, and didn't fix them. Hmm, wonder why? One thing's for sure. No matter what will happen, note taking devices will always have the most accessibility, since they are made with braille in their mind. And this is the topic, where its a personal preference. You say apple, I say notetakers, others say windows, others say android, and so on. Think, its whatever works best for who. ----- Original Message ----- From: Devin Prater <d.prater@xxxxxx To: "amynick100@xxxxxxxxx" <amynick100@xxxxxxxxx Date: Saturday, 25 October 2014 4:19 pmSubject: Re: [BNU] Re: Bookshare inaccessibility, how much is due
to Windows CE 6? Which is why we should abandon ship before it sinks. Right now, iOS has the lead on accessibility. Sent from my iPadOn Oct 24, 2014, at 8:00 PM, amy a <amynick100@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I am only speculating, but I think it's an economical issue. Since there is obviously not nearly as much demand for thesenotetakers as there is for mainstream computers, they do not have
as much money to make updates. ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Greco <peter.19.greco@xxxxxxxxxxx To: brajmund2000@xxxxxxxxx, braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, lucysirianni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date sent: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 08:30:50 +1030 Subject: [BNU] Bookshare inaccessibility, how much is due to Windows CE 6? Is this due to the Apex using CE 6? It seems that every time a website is updated it becomes less accessible with the Apex.I did try asking Patrick Wallace about this, and reading between
the lines, if you can do that with a verbal conversation, I think that the Apex and perhaps other notetakers are going to be refreshable braille displays for mainstream devices. I have said for some time that these units are going to be "museum bound". Perhaps we're all "lusers" rather than "users"! You can hear Patrick's interview, go to www.rphadelaide.org.au/links/VE.mp3Technology is moving just way too fast for these devices, that's
an observation not a criticism!The I-phone 4 s which was out barely 3 years ago is now regarded
as ancient! How can the Apex which is 5 years old compete? Again, an observation not a criticism! Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: RAJMUND <brajmund2000@xxxxxxxxx To: braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,lucysirianni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date sent: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 22:33:52 +0100Subject: [BNU] Re: [blindkid] Important Info for Bookshare Users
with Braille Notes! Hello, Sorry to say this, but HIMS has a bookshare app for like 2 years, so even though their app is not working right now, it will not effect them. Humanware should of done one for ages. oh well, what can we do? Its just going to be like 9.1. They'll release a thing, that you install, and will be able to use bookshare again. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lucy Sirianni <lucysirianni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Friday, 24 October 2014 10:28 pm Subject: [BNU] [blindkid] Important Info for Bookshare Users with Braille Notes! Hi all, I just received this rather upsetting information from another listserv and thought it might be of use to others on this list.I hope that those of us who rely on Bookshare's services and who
prefer or need to use the site with a BrailleNote can make both Bookshare and HumanWare aware of how extremely problematic this incompatibility is. Lucy ---- Original Message ------ From: Allison Hilliker via blindkid <blindkid@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: [blindkid] Important Info for Bookshare Users with Braille Notes! Date sent: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 20:56:20 +0000 Hello Everyone,The updated Bookshare website is set to launch next week. While
there are many improvements that will help our members, we are aware of potential bugs with select partner technologies.The BrailleNote will not be able to download books directly from
Bookshare. We recommend that you download books from Bookshare prior to our planned website downtime on Monday, October 27 at 5PM Pacific Time. Afterwards, you can continue to read Bookshare books by downloading from a separate device like a computer and transfer them to your BrailleNote.HumanWare has been notified about this issue, and we are working
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