[BNU] Re: Bookshare inaccessibility, how much is due to Windows CE 6?

Devin Prater <d.prater@xxxxxx> · Sat, 25 Oct 2014 20:24:54 -0500

It is true that bookshare doesn't solve all our problems. I, for example, can't 
read my books on the mac unless I use the web reader, which is really not so 
good. So, I've mostly given up on them, choosing BARD instead. 

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 25, 2014, at 10:51 AM, Lucy Sirianni <lucysirianni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
> wrote:
> 
> I understand that the BrailleNote has some serious limitations, but there's 
> another problem here: Bookshare, like Apple, is very deliberately choosing 
> not to prioritize universal accessibility.  To the best of my knowledge, the 
> site was compatible with all of the devices mentioned below, and Bookshare is 
> now choosing to discontinue that compatibility for reasons that are unclear 
> and, I suspect, insufficient.  I strongly encourage anyone who will be 
> negatively affected by this change to contact Bookshare as well as HumanWare 
> with concerns.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: RAJMUND <brajmund2000@xxxxxxxxx
> To: d.prater@xxxxxx
> Date sent: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 16:34:44 +0100
> Subject: Re: [BNU] Bookshare inaccessibility, how much is due to Windows CE 6?
> 
> Hello,
> If I'm not mistaken, IOS 8 bought its own bugs, am I right? If so, apple 
> hasn't got the most accessibility, has it? When Voice over disappears, and 
> need sighted help to get it back, I will not call that accessible.  It used 
> to be, but right now, it isn't, what it used to be.  Just to stay on topic, 
> people have troubles with their braille displays, and bluetooth keyboards, as 
> of now.  What is worse than anything, is the fact, that apple knew all these 
> bugs through the beta, and didn't fix them.  Hmm, wonder why? One thing's for 
> sure.  No matter what will happen, note taking devices will always have the 
> most accessibility, since they are made with braille in their  mind.  And 
> this is the topic, where its a personal preference.  You say apple, I say 
> notetakers, others say windows, others say android, and so on.  Think, its 
> whatever works best for who.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Devin Prater <d.prater@xxxxxx
> To: "amynick100@xxxxxxxxx" <amynick100@xxxxxxxxx
> Date: Saturday, 25 October 2014 4:19 pm
> Subject: Re: [BNU] Re: Bookshare inaccessibility, how much is due to Windows 
> CE 6?
> 
> 
> 
> Which is why we should abandon ship before it sinks.  Right now, iOS has the 
> lead on accessibility.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Oct 24, 2014, at 8:00 PM, amy a <amynick100@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> I am only speculating, but I think it's an economical issue.  Since there is 
> obviously not nearly as much demand for these notetakers as there is for 
> mainstream computers, they do not have as much money to make updates.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Peter Greco <peter.19.greco@xxxxxxxxxxx
> To: brajmund2000@xxxxxxxxx, braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, 
> lucysirianni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date sent: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 08:30:50 +1030
> Subject: [BNU] Bookshare inaccessibility, how much is due to Windows CE 6?
> 
> Is this due to the Apex using CE 6?
> It seems that every time a website is updated it becomes less
> accessible with the Apex.
> I did try asking Patrick Wallace about this, and reading between
> the lines, if you can do that with a verbal conversation, I think
> that the Apex and perhaps other notetakers are going to be
> refreshable braille displays for mainstream devices.  I have said
> for some time that these units are going to be "museum bound".
> Perhaps we're all "lusers" rather than "users"!
> You can hear Patrick's interview, go to
> www.rphadelaide.org.au/links/VE.mp3
> Technology is moving just way too fast for these devices, that's
> an observation not a criticism!
> The I-phone 4 s which was out barely 3 years ago is now regarded
> as ancient!
> How can the Apex which is 5 years old compete?
> Again, an observation not a criticism!
> Peter
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: RAJMUND <brajmund2000@xxxxxxxxx
> To: braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,lucysirianni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date sent: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 22:33:52 +0100
> Subject: [BNU] Re: [blindkid] Important Info for Bookshare Users
> with Braille Notes!
> 
> Hello,
> Sorry to say this, but HIMS has a bookshare app for like 2 years,
> so even though their app is not working right now, it will not
> effect them.  Humanware should of done one for ages.  oh well,
> what can we do? Its just going to be like 9.1.  They'll release a
> thing, that you install, and will be able to use bookshare again.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Lucy Sirianni <lucysirianni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Friday, 24 October 2014 10:28 pm
> Subject: [BNU] [blindkid] Important Info for Bookshare Users with
> Braille Notes!
> 
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I just received this rather upsetting information from another
> listserv and thought it might be of use to others on this list.
> I hope that those of us who rely on Bookshare's services and who
> prefer or need to use the site with a BrailleNote can make both
> Bookshare and HumanWare aware of how extremely problematic this
> incompatibility is.
> 
> Lucy
> 
> ---- Original Message ------
> From: Allison Hilliker via blindkid <blindkid@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [blindkid] Important Info for Bookshare Users with
> Braille Notes!
> Date sent: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 20:56:20 +0000
> 
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> The updated Bookshare website is set to launch next week.  While
> there are many improvements that will help our members, we are
> aware of potential bugs with select partner technologies.
> 
> The BrailleNote will not be able to download books directly from
> Bookshare.  We recommend that you download books from Bookshare
> prior to our planned website downtime on Monday, October 27 at
> 5PM Pacific Time.  Afterwards, you can continue to read
> Bookshare
> books by downloading from a separate device like a computer and
> transfer them to your BrailleNote.
> 
> HumanWare has been notified about this issue, and we are working
> with them to find a solution to use our updated website.  Thank
> you for your patience.
> 
> Best,
> Allison Hilliker
> Bookshare Operations Associate
> 
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