[BNU] Re: Bookshare inaccessibility, how much is due to Windows CE 6?

  • From: rajmund <brajmund2000@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, justforlistmessages531@xxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 22:42:06 +0000

Hello,
But hw isn't good at beta testing, while apple used to be good at it. 

----- Original Message -----
From: Jessica Brown <justforlistmessages531@xxxxxxxxx>
To: brajmund2000@xxxxxxxxx, bn list <braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sunday, 26 October 2014 10:39 pm
Subject: re: [BNU] Re: Bookshare inaccessibility, how much is due to Windows CE 
6?

>
>
> There is a difference between hw and apple. Hw does not fix there 
> software bugs, and for the most part, apple does fix them.
> 
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: RAJMUND <brajmund2000@xxxxxxxxx
> To: d.prater@xxxxxx
> Date sent: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 16:34:44 +0100
> Subject: [BNU] Re: Bookshare inaccessibility, how much is due to 
> Windows CE 6?
> 
> Hello,
> If I'm not mistaken, IOS 8 bought its own bugs, am I right? If 
> so, apple hasn't got the most accessibility, has it? When Voice 
> over disappears, and need sighted help to get it back, I will not 
> call that accessible. It used to be, but right now, it isn't, 
> what it used to be.  Just to stay on topic, people have troubles 
> with their braille displays, and bluetooth keyboards, as of now. 
> What is worse than anything, is the fact, that apple knew all 
> these bugs through the beta, and didn't fix them. Hmm, wonder 
> why? One thing's for sure. No matter what will happen, note 
> taking devices will always have the most accessibility, since 
> they are made with braille in their  mind.  And this is the 
> topic, where its a personal preference. You say apple, I say 
> notetakers, others say windows, others say android, and so on. 
> Think, its whatever works best for who.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Devin Prater <d.prater@xxxxxx
> To: "amynick100@xxxxxxxxx" <amynick100@xxxxxxxxx
> Date: Saturday, 25 October 2014 4:19 pm
> Subject: Re: [BNU] Re: Bookshare inaccessibility, how much is due 
> to Windows CE 6?
> 
> 
> 
>  Which is why we should abandon ship before it sinks. Right now, 
> iOS has the lead on accessibility.
> 
>  Sent from my iPad
> 
>  On Oct 24, 2014, at 8:00 PM, amy a <amynick100@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>  I am only speculating, but I think it's an economical issue.  
> Since there is obviously not nearly as much demand for these 
> notetakers as there is for mainstream computers, they do not have 
> as much money to make updates.
> 
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Peter Greco <peter.19.greco@xxxxxxxxxxx
>  To: brajmund2000@xxxxxxxxx, braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, 
> lucysirianni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  Date sent: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 08:30:50 +1030
>  Subject: [BNU] Bookshare inaccessibility, how much is due to 
> Windows CE 6?
> 
>  Is this due to the Apex using CE 6?
>  It seems that every time a website is updated it becomes less
>  accessible with the Apex.
>  I did try asking Patrick Wallace about this, and reading between
>  the lines, if you can do that with a verbal conversation, I 
> think
>  that the Apex and perhaps other notetakers are going to be
>  refreshable braille displays for mainstream devices.  I have 
> said
>  for some time that these units are going to be "museum bound".
>  Perhaps we're all "lusers" rather than "users"!
>  You can hear Patrick's interview, go to
>  www.rphadelaide.org.au/links/VE.mp3
>  Technology is moving just way too fast for these devices, that's
>  an observation not a criticism!
>  The I-phone 4 s which was out barely 3 years ago is now regarded
>  as ancient!
>  How can the Apex which is 5 years old compete?
>  Again, an observation not a criticism!
>  Peter
> 
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: RAJMUND <brajmund2000@xxxxxxxxx
>  To: braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,lucysirianni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  Date sent: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 22:33:52 +0100
>  Subject: [BNU] Re: [blindkid] Important Info for Bookshare Users
>  with Braille Notes!
> 
>  Hello,
>  Sorry to say this, but HIMS has a bookshare app for like 2 
> years,
>  so even though their app is not working right now, it will not
>  effect them.  Humanware should of done one for ages.  oh well,
>  what can we do? Its just going to be like 9.1.  They'll release 
> a
>  thing, that you install, and will be able to use bookshare 
> again.
> 
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Lucy Sirianni <lucysirianni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  To: braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  Date: Friday, 24 October 2014 10:28 pm
>  Subject: [BNU] [blindkid] Important Info for Bookshare Users 
> with
>  Braille Notes!
> 
> 
> 
>  Hi all,
> 
>  I just received this rather upsetting information from another
>  listserv and thought it might be of use to others on this list.
>  I hope that those of us who rely on Bookshare's services and who
>  prefer or need to use the site with a BrailleNote can make both
>  Bookshare and HumanWare aware of how extremely problematic this
>  incompatibility is.
> 
>  Lucy
> 
>  ---- Original Message ------
>  From: Allison Hilliker via blindkid <blindkid@xxxxxxxxxx
>  Subject: [blindkid] Important Info for Bookshare Users with
>  Braille Notes!
>  Date sent: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 20:56:20 +0000
> 
> 
>  Hello Everyone,
> 
>  The updated Bookshare website is set to launch next week.  While
>  there are many improvements that will help our members, we are
>  aware of potential bugs with select partner technologies.
> 
>  The BrailleNote will not be able to download books directly from
>  Bookshare.  We recommend that you download books from Bookshare
>  prior to our planned website downtime on Monday, October 27 at
>  5PM Pacific Time.  Afterwards, you can continue to read
>  Bookshare
>  books by downloading from a separate device like a computer and
>  transfer them to your BrailleNote.
> 
>  HumanWare has been notified about this issue, and we are working
>  with them to find a solution to use our updated website.  Thank
>  you for your patience.
> 
>  Best,
>  Allison Hilliker
>  Bookshare Operations Associate
> 
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