[brailleblaster] Re: Using IDs or Classes in Config files
- From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: brailleblaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 22:00:03 -0500
The sample configSettings string below may be helpful. The
configSettings string essentially tacks its contents onto the end of the
configuration file. If it contains a setting already in the file the new
value replaces the old. If it contains a setting not in the file the
value is the one which will be used. Note in particular that
semanticFiles is a list.
String configSettings =
"semanticFiles nimas.sem,thisdoc.sem\n"
+ "style newStyle1\n"
+ "firstLineIndent 4\n"
+ "newStyle2\n
+ "linesBefore 2\n"
;
John
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 11:26:16AM -0500, John J. Boyer wrote:
> The thisdoc.sem file could go in the archive containing the document, so
> it is available in future translations. The trranscriber may want to
> suspend editing and returdn to it later, so it is important that the
> file be saved.
>
> John
>
> On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 03:58:30AM -0400, Keith Creasy wrote:
> > This seems like a good approach. I would just add that we want to try and
> > discourage extensive use of new styles. Generally there should already be a
> > style that fits most situations. I'm not sure how to accomplish this but if
> > a user were to get into the habit of defining a new style every time they
> > needed to change the style on an element things could get messy even though
> > it might work. There is a very limited number of named elements in most of
> > the XML vocabularies we are going to handle and in almost every case the
> > named element will use the styles consistently. In most cases it is not a
> > matter of creating a new style for a particular element but rather a need to
> > assign the treatment of a named element as if it were a different named
> > element, for example a particular level-4 heading may really need to be
> > treated as a level-3 heading in braille. This is a subjective decision and
> > is one reason we still need human transcribers.
> >
> >
> > As Brandon and I discussed, the user interface should present a list of
> > available styles that the user can pick from to make it clear that the
> > existing styles are available. I think we also need to improve the way
> > styles are modified. The current "Translation Template" dialog is OK for
> > regular configuration settings but for styles it isn't nearly clear enough
> > what the user can do with a style, what settings can be changed, and what
> > effect they have. I'd suggest that we leave out styles from the translation
> > template dialog or perhaps leave styles there but provide an interface that
> > lets a user open a style in a more structured dialog. I think Brandon is
> > making this a view in the main window which is also a fine way to make it
> > clear to the user what's going on and how to change it.
> >
> > We may also need to filter the action that is initiated when a user attempts
> > to add white space in the text view. One of our testers attempted to center
> > a heading with the tab key. The result, as expected, was that the text was
> > centered in the text view but the braille view did not change because
> > LibLouis compressed the white space. The tester was confused by this
> > behavior.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John J. Boyer
> > Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 3:35 PM
> > To: brailleblaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [brailleblaster] Re: Using IDs or Classes in Config files
> >
> > The least cumbersome way to handle blocks that require special styles would
> > be to add the styles to nimas.cfg and make a special semantic-actions file
> > for the document with lines such as
> >
> > newStyle p,id,01
> >
> > Then when you call translateFile use a configSettings string like
> >
> > semanticFiles thisdoc.sem
> >
> > This will have the effect of including thisdoc.sem at the end of nimas.sem
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 01:47:06PM -0400, Brandon Roller wrote:
> > > Can I use the semantic actions configfile or configstring? Let's say
> > > a paragraph has an id 01 and I want it to have 3 lines before and 2
> > > lines after.
> > > With configfile would I make an entry such as configfile
> > > p,id,01,newConfig.cfg?
> > > With configstring would I make an entry like
> > > configstring,p,01,linesBefore=3;linesAfter=3; ?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 1:39 PM, John J. Boyer
> > > <john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Brandon,
> > > >
> > > > References to a particular document belong in the semantic-actions file.
> > > > You can add the new style to the configuration file or you could
> > > > create a temparary configuration file that includes the "standard"
> > > > one and has the new style. This temparary file could also contain a
> > > > semanticFiles setting giving the name of a temporary semantics file
> > > > for the document which would assign the new style to the paragraph
> > > > with its ID. Since the document may contain several paragrraphs
> > > > requiring the new style you will need a separate entry in the temporary
> > semantic file for each one.
> > > >
> > > > This is a situation that was not known when liblouisutdml was being
> > > > developed. Perhaps a less cumbersome way can be added.
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 01:06:37PM -0400, Brandon Roller wrote:
> > > > > Let's say one specific paragraph has different formatting than the
> > > > standard
> > > > > para. It is centered and has 3 lines before and 2 lines after. I
> > > > > was hoping that I could simply create a new style based off the
> > > > > elements
> > > > class
> > > > > or id attribute.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 12:26 PM, John J. Boyer <
> > > > > john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Brandon,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please give more details. What are you trying to accomplish?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > John
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 09:30:59AM -0400, Brandon Roller wrote:
> > > > > > > Is there a way to specify an id or class for special
> > > > > > > formatting in a configuration file? I don't see anything in the
> > doucmentation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > John J. Boyer; President, Chief Software Developer
> > > > > > Abilitiessoft, Inc.
> > > > > > http://www.abilitiessoft.com
> > > > > > Madison, Wisconsin USA
> > > > > > Developing software for people with disabilities
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> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
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> > > > John J. Boyer; President, Chief Software Developer Abilitiessoft,
> > > > Inc.
> > > > http://www.abilitiessoft.com
> > > > Madison, Wisconsin USA
> > > > Developing software for people with disabilities
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> > John J. Boyer; President, Chief Software Developer Abilitiessoft, Inc.
> > http://www.abilitiessoft.com
> > Madison, Wisconsin USA
> > Developing software for people with disabilities
> >
> >
> >
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> John J. Boyer; President, Chief Software Developer
> Abilitiessoft, Inc.
> http://www.abilitiessoft.com
> Madison, Wisconsin USA
> Developing software for people with disabilities
>
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John J. Boyer; President, Chief Software Developer
Abilitiessoft, Inc.
http://www.abilitiessoft.com
Madison, Wisconsin USA
Developing software for people with disabilities
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