[brailleblaster] Re: Another reproducible lockup
- From: Brandon Roller <brandon.r.roller@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: brailleblaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 3 May 2013 07:59:19 -0400
I agree with Chuck
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Chuck Myers <cmyers@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Would Notepad++ be useful? It seems to have a few xml plugins.
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> *From:* brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
> brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] on behalf of Vic Beckley [
> vic.beckley3@xxxxxxxxx]
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 02, 2013 4:54 PM
> *To:* brailleblaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [brailleblaster] Re: Another reproducible lockup
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> Brandon,
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> Can you give me a better solution that a user like me can use to produce
> better formed XML documents from Word? If there is one, I will definitely
> use it. I know saving the XML directly with Word doesn’t work. Users of
> Word are definitely going to want to use BB to produce Braille if BB is
> meant for public consumption. I am not disputing that my documents are not
> formatted correctly but don’t know how to get them any better without
> learning XML and spending a lot of time manually typing it in.
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> Best regards from Ohio,
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> Vic
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> *From:* brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Brandon Roller
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 02, 2013 4:34 PM
> *To:* brailleblaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [brailleblaster] Re: Another reproducible lockup
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> Michael, I completely agree.
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> This should be fairly easy to resolve and I will do it sometime early
> tomorrow, but my point is that the way that, in my opinion, Daisy plug-in
> formats xml is very poorly.
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> I don't think it's worth the time to defensively code against a single
> plug-in that creates poorly formatted xml. If it doesn't work, the user
> may be better off having to find a different solution.
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> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Michael Whapples <mwhapples@xxxxxxx>
> wrote:
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> I would say there is a difference of valid and awful. A document may be
> valid but may be awful as well (thinks of HTML from MS Word).
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> I feel that as much as possible whe should support valid documents, we
> cannot guarantee what the tool creating a document is like.
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> Michael Whapples
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> On 02/05/2013 21:15, Brandon Roller wrote:
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> OK, I see. The screen reader shouldn't be the problem. I tried your
> original and get the same error.
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> You are correct that not every document will be perfect, but at the same
> time a document should be reasonably formatted and not completely terrible.
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> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Vic Beckley <vic.beckley3@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
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> Brandon,
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> Yes, this attachment fixes the problem. But can we expect that the
> documents that users want to use will be formatted exactly correctly? I
> doubt it.
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> Did you have a screen reader running when you tested? I can duplicate it
> with both Window-Eyes and NVDA. Maybe this has an effect. I will try it
> without a screen reader once my wife gets home and can watch.
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> Best regards from Ohio,
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> Vic
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> *From:* brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Brandon Roller
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 02, 2013 3:11 PM
> *To:* brailleblaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [brailleblaster] Re: Another reproducible lockup
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> Vic,
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> Try using this version instead. It is formatted better than the one
> created by the daisy plug-in.
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> I removed the strong tags around empty spaces and some other minor
> changes, such as removing empty paragraph tags.
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> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Vic Beckley <vic.beckley3@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
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> I found a lockup that is 100% for me.
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> Open the 06 Sample Presentations-sr.xml file.
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> Control tab to the Braille view.
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> Arrow down to the line that contains "Page 8."
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> Press home to move to the beginning of the line. This step may or may not
> be
> necessary.
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> Begin moving right with the right arrow key. BB will freeze when you get to
> the 8.
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> Best regards from Ohio,
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> Vic
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