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Ernie
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From: "solsticesinger" <solsticesinger25@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 1:05 AM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: audio books abridged..
I hate abridged books. In fact, I refuse to read them. If I can't read the whole thing, I'd rather not read any of it.
I don't much like the fact that NLS is starting to offer abridged books. I didn't want to have to worry about that with them.
Shannon
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 9:02 PM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] audio books abridged..
A lot of audiio books seem to be abridged. I was surprised to notice that when selecting audio books for a friend of mine who hates abridged books. In our bookstore we have a lot that have been donated, and I brought home quite a few for her to choose from among and they were all abridged. After that I looked carefully at both ones the librarians were discarding and others that were donated to us, and extermely few were unabridged. I have no idea why that would be. Several said "approved by the author." I admit that I skip some descriptions in some books and get to the story, but that should be my choice, not someone else's.
Cindy
--- Karen Lewellen <klewellen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
That story does not surprise me. When I met Noah Adams at a Corporation for Public Broadcasting meeting and told him of his titles in the NLS program he said the same thing. why did not they ask me to read it? I agree with those about the fact NLS is playing with abridged material, in theory at least. i saw someone suggesting that " sighted people" came up with the abridged concept etc as if this were some kind of conspiracy against the blind, and that is really silly since the audio book exists in that format to encourage people to buy the print ones, or for those who want to read on the go in a way. Goodness many who could use the NLS program do not even know of its existence.
Still I am going to phone the national headquarters next week and ask them. The purpose of the library in the first place was to create access to full text for those who indeed could not take part in their public libraries. I will have to get the Nixon book too. Karen
On Sat, 18 Feb 2006, Evan Reese wrote:
> Back in the 80s? I think, Larry King - the talk show host, not the other > author with the same name - wrote an autobiography which NLS recorded. > Someone called him up one night and mentioned that it was available as a > talking book, and he was a little miffed that he wasn't asked to read his own > book. He said he would have done it. > > If you want to listen to a former president read a book, RFB&D has a book, > "Real Peace" by Richard Nixon, read by Richard Nixon. As far as I know, it > is unabridged; he read the whole thing. It's not a very long book, nothing > compared to Clinton's monster. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Lewellen" > <klewellen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 6:13 PM > Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: How Many NLS Members? (was) Re: Bad scan > Wheel of... > > >> Oh, >> The first one is as it says not an NLS book, but they took the random >> house audio-book, which are often abridged and just made a NLS style copy. >> That is not recorded by nls as your second entry illustrates. >> Wonder why they just did not ask Bill to read the book for the service, >> unless this would have been against the randomhouse contract. >> Many years ago one could fine even NLS titles read by the authors >> themselves. For example the first copy of "I know why the caged bird >> sings," was read by the author, and the first copy of Edward alby's play >> "who's afraid of Virginia wouf," was actually an audio recording of the >> stage production. >> Perhaps an effort to give listener's some advance idea of how the digital >> talking books will sound? I have not followed it closely, but I hope that >> technology will still make use of human narrators. >> Karen >> >> On Sat, 18 Feb 2006, Evan Reese wrote: >> >> > Here's the proof: >> > >> > Author: Clinton, Bill, 1946- >> > Title: My life [sound recording] / Bill Clinton. >> > Edition: Abridged. >> > Published: New York, N.Y. : Random House Audio, c2004. >> > (Distributed in special format for the Library of Congress by >> > Talking Book Publishers) >> > Description: 2 sound cassettes (C-90) : analog, 15/16 ips, 4 >> > track, mono. >> > Book Number: RC 58101 >> > Dewey No.: 973.929092 B ANF >> > ISBN: 0739317059 >> > Notes: A shared master program book. The Random House >> > Audio recording has been adapted by NLS. The publication has >> > been changed to 15/16 ips, 4 track format. Side announcements >> > have been added. >> > Digital master. >> > >> > However they did record the original version as well: >> > >> > Author: Clinton, Bill, 1946- >> > Title: My life [sound recording] / Bill Clinton. >> > Published: New York, N.Y. : Random House Audio, c2004. >> > (Distributed in special format for the Library of Congress by >> > Talking Book Publishers) >> > Description: 9 sound cassettes in two containers (C-90) : >> > analog, 15/16 ips, 4 track, mono. >> > Book Number: RC 58100 >> > Dewey No.: 973.929092 B ANF >> > ISBN: 0375414576 >> > Notes: A shared master program book. The Random House >> > Audio recording has been adapted by NLS. The publication has >> > been changed to 15/16 ips, 4 track format. Side announcements >> > have been added. >> > >> > Actually, they didn't record either one at the talking book studios the >> > way they usually make talking books by the looks of things, which might >> > explain how they got them out so fast. I don't know which one came out >> > first, though they both came out quicker than usual. >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Lewellen" >> > <klewellen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 4:59 PM >> > Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: How Many NLS Members? (was) Re: Bad >> > scan Wheel of... >> > >> > >> > > Hi, >> > > What proof do you have that the clinton auto biography was abridged? >> > > NLS >> > > never records abridged versions, as this would serve no one. >> > > Also, on some occasions NLS has an arrangement with the publisher to >> > > have >> > > access to books either just before or at the exact time of printing. >> > > Such >> > > speeds up the time it takes in getting a book on the library shelves, >> > > but >> > > can also in the case of book to movie adaptations result in some >> > > different >> > > endings than either the films themselves or later publications of >> > > those >> > > kinds of books. >> > > I am an NLS fan always will be. Bookshare will not be able to equal >> > > the >> > > NLS reach or quality for a variety of reasons in my view. >> > > nor should it. there should be a choice here as with other things. >> > > >> > > Karen >> > > >> > > On Sat, 18 Feb 2006, Evan Reese wrote: >> > > >> > > > Was that the abridged version? I thought they got it out faster >> > > > than usual, and I thought that was a really long book for them to >> > > > get done so quickly. That must have been the reason. >> > > > >> > > > Also, if you can spring for one of those Handicassettes, you can >> > > > change the speed of the narrator's voice without changing the pitch. >> > > > I think they're overpriced, but I use it all the time to read books >> > > > and magazines on tape. >> > > > >> > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > > From: Gailselfridge@xxxxxxx >> > > > To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 11:15 AM >> > > > Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: How Many NLS Members? (was) Re: >> > > > Bad >> > > > scan Wheel of... >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > I agree with Shannon. I just read a Nora Roberts series and I'm sure >> > > > NLS will have it eventually, but I didn't have to wait. Also, when I >> > > > started with Bookshare, I read Bill Clinton's biography, the whole >> > > > thing. NLS had it at about the same time, but it was the abridged >> > > > version and I wanted to read all of it. And I find I can read faster >> > > > with bookshare books because I use my screen reader and can increase >> > > > the speed to a much faster rate than is used by NLS narrators. The >> > > > only way I can do this with NLS books is to increase tape speed >> > > > which distorts the narrator's voice. >> > > > >> > > > Gail >> > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank Email to >> > > bookshare-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > Put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the Subject line. 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