The Bookport functions as it was intended. A TV without a screen doesn't because expected functionality is missing. If some one were generous enough To purchase a Bookport for me as a gift, I don't imagine that the first thing I would do is to go to that person and say, "But where's the speaker on this piece of junk?" -----Original Message----- From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Poehlman Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 10:28 AM To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bookport] Re: bookport needs a speaker: Ok, the price on the site is rong then? iut was listed as 49x or something like that. I could go and check but you know better than I. Again I say, this is acustomer request so just take it for what it is worth from someone who's been around blindness products for a long time. Yes, people who get them if they buy them know what they are getting in advance, but many are given as gifts to people who have never heard of them and they should be correctly built. I will not buy one because it does not have a speaker and it does not allow me to store stuff in it and unless the stereo bug is fixed. I also do not like the speech or the spacing of the buttons. Let this be what it is, not an attack or intended critisism but would have been customer observations. Yes, you can adapt but the price means you should not have to. Suppose I got a tv for 7 hundred dollars and was told it dien't come with a screen? -- Jonnie Apple Seed With his: Hands-On Technolog(eye)s On Sep 5, 2005, at 9:39 AM, Walt Smith wrote: Not if it would alter the unit's size. This subject has been debated to death and beyond on this list and there's no solid consensus, but as far as I'm concerned, anything that would tend to increase the unit's size or weight is completely unacceptable. People who purchase it know in advance what they're getting and not getting and if you can find a Walkman that does one per cent of what the Book Port does, you're welcome to it. Besides, you should at least get the price right--it's $400, not $500. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 9:00 AM Subject: [bookport] bookport needs a speaker: When I examined a book port for several weeks beginning around memorial day, I was most put off by the fact that I had to augment the unit with something else before even beginning to use it. Yes, it's lovely, but no walk man that I know of costs 500 dollars. I know that the IPod and its kin require augmentation too, but we are talking about a classic need here and that is one of being able to hear the audio and for 500 dollars, you'd think we'd get something with a speaker in it. Further on the discussion of what should be in the book port, I was disapointed that I could not just load something into the book port without yet another augmentation which granted like headphones was supplied but unnerving nonetheless especially if you need better headphones or an external speaker or a bigger card. I was fully informed and it was no surprise but the reality was a bit different from the knowing in advance. Were a speaker emplanted into the bp we could have error tones and other tonal indications augmenting our experience. I'd love to hear the wisdom behind the current design other than perhaps better bat life and a more compact design? Thanks! -- Jonnie Apple Seed With his: Hands-On Technolog(eye)s