[bookport] Re: bookport Digest V3 #259
- From: "Lou Kolb" <loukolb@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 18:50:31 -0400
Are you sure you're not hearing the beeps that play when there has been no
activity for a while. They are there to remind you to disconect and not run
down the batteries. Lou
----- Original Message -----
From: <chasec@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 6:22 PM
Subject: [bookport] Re: bookport Digest V3 #259
> Hi. Even if you are sending a small text file or a large .mp3 file,
> it doesn't really make a differents. The eight beeps are normal.
> They are just status of the sending process. But don't be mad if you
> don't know what they mean, because I don't eather! But it is normal.
> Even tho they drive me crazy. I think it should talk and say, "ten
> persent" and so on. Oh well I normaly just walk away! Just don't
> wory about the beeps.
> Chase
>
> ---- Original Message ----
> From: ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: bookport Digest V3 #259
> Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 02:07:18 -0400 (EDT)
>
> >bookport Digest Sat, 16 Sep 2006 Volume: 03 Issue: 259
> >
> >In This Issue:
> > [bookport] Re: Getting books for my BP
> > [bookport] Re: Getting books for my BP
> > [bookport] Scott noise reduction
> > [bookport] Re: DoubleTalk and rechargable batteries
> > [bookport] Re: Getting books for my BP
> > [bookport] Re: DoubleTalk and rechargable batteries
> > [bookport] Re: Getting books for my BP
> > [bookport] Re: Scott noise reduction
> > [bookport] Re: Getting books for my BP
> > [bookport] Re: Getting books for my BP
> > [bookport] Re: Getting books for my BP
> > [bookport] Re: Scott noise reduction
> > [bookport] Re: Getting books for my BP
> > [bookport] Re: Book port Speech
> > [bookport] Re: Getting books for my BP
> > [bookport] Re: Book port Speech
> > [bookport] Question
> > [bookport] Another question
> > [bookport] Re: Another question
> > [bookport] Re: Another question
> > [bookport] Re: Book port Speech
> > [bookport] Re: Getting books for my BP
> > [bookport] (no subject)
> > [bookport] Re: Book port Speech
> > [bookport] Re: In Defense of DoubleTalk...
> >
> >---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >-
> >
> >From: "Michael Bowman-Jones" <mikebowmanjones@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [bookport] Re: Getting books for my BP
> >Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 00:04:05 -0700
> >
> >Hi, David and List.
> >
> >Here's a follow-up to Chase's question. Once a book has been found
> >and the
> >download is attempted, is there a way to monitor or check the ongoing
> >
> >status? (I did not see such in the manual but I could have missed
> >it.) As
> >a "newbie" so to speak, just for grins I went to the .edu link listed
> >in
> >Walt's previous message and found a book to download. Alt-f did
> >nothing for
> >me option-wise, so I tried the Applications menu, which offered up
> >the BP
> >Spider. Even as we speak, the unit seems to be doing something, as I
> >get an
> >eight-note tune every so often. (I was expecting a beep more than a
> >tune.)
> >Given that I am not sure what's happening, I am just letting it do
> >its
> >thing. Is what I describe supposed to be happening? (If not, I
> >guess I
> >will have to go back to the manual and do some more re-reading.)
> >
> >Thanks in advance to whomever lends their expertise; it is highly
> >appreciated.
> >
> >God Bless you all and have a great day.
> >Michael
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 05:15:57 -0700 (PDT)
> >From: James Nuttall <jnuttallphd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [bookport] Re: Getting books for my BP
> >
> >Hello Chase:
> >A lot of people get books that have been scanned volunteers at
> > bookshare.org
> > There is a membership fee. But most of the books are very
> >worthwhile books. So check it out.
> >James Nuttall -- Michigan
> >Chase Crispin <chasec@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Hi everyone. I don't really have that much stuff on my book port
> >even
> >though I got it early this summer. All that I am needing is a
> >suggestion on
> >where to get books. Please have it be a good source, and I want it to
> >have
> >a lot of books. Thank You.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Chase Crispin
> >Arbor Park student
> >Home phone: 4025332815
> >Cell Phone 4024274006
> >Address: 3083 College Drive Blair NE. 68008
> >chasec@xxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 05:29:05 -0700 (PDT)
> >From: James Nuttall <jnuttallphd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [bookport] Scott noise reduction
> >
> >Hello Scott:
> >I also wanted to cut out noise while I listened to my BP. What you
> >want to buy is called "noise reduction ear muffs". Unfortunately,
> >after long searching there is nothing it totally blocks out other
> >people's conversations. But I found a good selection of helpful
> >noise reduction ear muffs at the following web site:
> >http://www.soundproofing.org/sales/ear_muffs.htm
> >James Nuttall -- Michigan
> >Scott Huddleson <hudd61@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: I would like to know if
> >there are any which do cut out speech. The people I
> >live with get rather loud at times.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Foxtrot"
> >To:
> >Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 2:33 AM
> >Subject: [bookport] Re: Bookport synthesizer
> >
> >
> >>I use a fairly inexpensive noise canceling pair of headphones I god
> >from
> >> Radio Shack. They are great for airplane and train noise. You can
> >still
> >> hear speech from the surrounding area. Evidently, they pick up the
> >noise
> >> and counteract it with a similar noise that is out of phase with
> >the
> >> exterior sound. You do not hear this canceling sound, as it offset
> >by the
> >> surrounding sound. I don't think they would be great for crowd
> >sound, as
> >> it
> >> doesn't cancel out speech.
> >>
> >> Rick
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >[mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> On Behalf Of Hope Hein
> >> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 3:59 PM
> >> To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [bookport] Re: Bookport synthesizer
> >>
> >> Does anyone use the noise canceling headphones? I have not
> >considered
> >> purchasing them because I do not know how they work. I wonder if
> >the make
> >> some kind of sound which is supposed to cancel out the other noises
> >and
> >> can
> >> one hear that sound? My ears are kind of sensitive to sounds.
> >> Hope
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> .From: "Lou Kolb"
> >> .Sent: 9/14/06 2:08:18 PM
> >> .To: "bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"
> >> .Subject: [bookport] Re: Bookport synthesizer
> >> .
> >> .I don't use them but there are various noise canceling headphones
> >> available
> >> .that others on the list can tell you more about. They do tend to
> >be more
> >> .expensive. Lou
> >> .----- Original Message -----
> >> .From: "Joni Colver"
> >> .To:
> >> .Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 1:13 PM
> >> .Subject: [bookport] Re: Bookport synthesizer
> >> .
> >> .
> >> .> Hope I do not hear a crackling sound, but, I did notice more
> >background
> >> .> noise when using the Double Talk and the provided earbuds. I
> >like the
> >> .sound
> >> .> better with my Sennheiser headphones. Do you have any headphones
> >to
> >> try
> >> .to
> >> .> see if the sound is better with them than with the earbuds?
> >> .>
> >> .> Joni
> >> .>
> >> .>
> >> .
> >> .
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >From: "Walt Smith" <walt@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [bookport] Re: DoubleTalk and rechargable batteries
> >Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 10:03:41 -0400
> >
> >You can purchase chargers from any halfway decent consumer
> >electronics store
> >(RadioShack, BestBuy, etc.). Avoid the cheapest models--a decent
> >charger
> >should run at least $20 or so and while there are less expensive
> >ones, I
> >frankly wouldn't trust them. I've seen some cheap chargers get
> >extremely hot
> >and their construction doesn't impress me as being particularly safe
> >in
> >terms of their being a fire hazard. If you want to buy the Cadillac
> >of all
> >chargers, check out:
> >
> >http://www.mahaenergy.com/store/Index.asp
> >
> >I have a really good charger that will charge any type of
> >rechargeable
> >battery (NiMh, NiCad, or the new fast-charge type) that I bought at
> >RadioShack. It doesn't carry their brand and I think it's got
> >Ray-O-Vac's
> >name on it. It came with a pair of Ray-O-Vac batteries that recharge
> >in just
> >15 minutes. This charger will charge up to 4 double A or triple A
> >batteries.
> >The one limitation is that you _cannot_ charge different types of
> >batteries
> >in it--that is, you couldn't charge 2 of the fast-charge type and 2
> >NiMh
> >batteries; or 2 NiMh and 2 NiCad.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Tré" <tre_strother@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 12:30 AM
> >Subject: [bookport] Re: DoubleTalk and rechargable batteries
> >
> >
> >Can you tell me where I would get a charger for the batteries you
> >mentioned?
> >I'm very interested in this possibility. I use a lot of audio along
> >with my
> >synth speech. I love the BP no matter which it is
> >tré Strother,
> >A+, IC³
> >Phone: 404-840-8189
> >Email: tre_strother@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Irwin Hott
> > To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 6:19 PM
> > Subject: [bookport] DoubleTalk and rechargable batteries
> >
> >
> > Nolan, you aren't the only one out there. I have been using the
> >DoubleTalk speech for years, and am quite pleased with it.
> >
> > I don't know how many hundreds of books and files I have read with
> >it.
> >
> > Asking what is the best speech is like asking what is the best car.
> >
> > All other synthesizers would require lots more memory, probably a
> >faster
> >processor and more than likely, much higher cost.
> >
> > I can't say enough about the Bookport. I use it daily.
> >
> > For the person who was concerned about buying batteries, you
> >certainly can
> >use rechargable ones.
> >
> > I am using NIMH 2100 Ma batteries. I think they were around $14
> >for a set
> >of 4 when I got them last year at Batteries Plus.
> >
> > I already had a charger that would charge them. When the charge
> >gets down
> >to about 40 percent on the Bookport I charge the other set so it is
> >ready.
> >I typically get 3500 to 4500 minutes per charge. That is mostly
> >using the
> >synthesized speech with a little audio mixed in.
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >From: "Walt Smith" <walt@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [bookport] Re: Getting books for my BP
> >Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 10:05:45 -0400
> >
> >If you use JAWS, press JAWS Key (INSERT)+T to see what's happening. I
> >didn't
> >realize you could download directly to the BP, but I've never fiddled
> >around
> >with Book Port Spider, either.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Michael Bowman-Jones" <mikebowmanjones@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 3:04 AM
> >Subject: [bookport] Re: Getting books for my BP
> >
> >
> >Hi, David and List.
> >
> >Here's a follow-up to Chase's question. Once a book has been found
> >and the
> >download is attempted, is there a way to monitor or check the ongoing
> >status? (I did not see such in the manual but I could have missed
> >it.) As
> >a "newbie" so to speak, just for grins I went to the .edu link listed
> >in
> >Walt's previous message and found a book to download. Alt-f did
> >nothing for
> >me option-wise, so I tried the Applications menu, which offered up
> >the BP
> >Spider. Even as we speak, the unit seems to be doing something, as I
> >get an
> >eight-note tune every so often. (I was expecting a beep more than a
> >tune.)
> >Given that I am not sure what's happening, I am just letting it do
> >its
> >thing. Is what I describe supposed to be happening? (If not, I
> >guess I
> >will have to go back to the manual and do some more re-reading.)
> >
> >Thanks in advance to whomever lends their expertise; it is highly
> >appreciated.
> >
> >God Bless you all and have a great day.
> >Michael
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >From: "Irwin Hott" <ihott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [bookport] Re: DoubleTalk and rechargable batteries
> >Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 13:42:27 -0400
> >
> >I got the charger and the batteries at Batteries Plus.
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >From: "Michael Bowman-Jones" <mikebowmanjones@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [bookport] Re: Getting books for my BP
> >Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 11:04:22 -0700
> >
> >Greetings Walt and List,
> >Well, turns out it didn't work--all I got was the Table of Contents
> >page.
> >It does make me wonder though if a book could be transferred by
> >chapter,
> >which could be real tedious if the volume has 60-70 chapters in it.
> >I know
> >this will bring a laugh out of a certain list participant out
> >there--I was
> >messing around with The Scottish Chiefs.
> >
> >Michael
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Walt Smith" <walt@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 7:05 AM
> >Subject: [bookport] Re: Getting books for my BP
> >
> >
> >> If you use JAWS, press JAWS Key (INSERT)+T to see what's happening.
> >I
> >> didn't
> >> realize you could download directly to the BP, but I've never
> >fiddled
> >> around
> >> with Book Port Spider, either.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Michael Bowman-Jones" <mikebowmanjones@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 3:04 AM
> >> Subject: [bookport] Re: Getting books for my BP
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi, David and List.
> >>
> >> Here's a follow-up to Chase's question. Once a book has been found
> >and
> >> the
> >> download is attempted, is there a way to monitor or check the
> >ongoing
> >> status? (I did not see such in the manual but I could have missed
> >it.)
> >> As
> >> a "newbie" so to speak, just for grins I went to the .edu link
> >listed in
> >> Walt's previous message and found a book to download. Alt-f did
> >nothing
> >> for
> >> me option-wise, so I tried the Applications menu, which offered up
> >the BP
> >> Spider. Even as we speak, the unit seems to be doing something, as
> >I get
> >> an
> >> eight-note tune every so often. (I was expecting a beep more than
> >a
> >> tune.)
> >> Given that I am not sure what's happening, I am just letting it do
> >its
> >> thing. Is what I describe supposed to be happening? (If not, I
> >guess I
> >> will have to go back to the manual and do some more re-reading.)
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance to whomever lends their expertise; it is highly
> >> appreciated.
> >>
> >> God Bless you all and have a great day.
> >> Michael
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> __________ NOD32 1.1758 (20060915) Information __________
> >>
> >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.
> >> http://www.eset.com
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >From: "Scott Huddleson" <hudd61@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [bookport] Re: Scott noise reduction
> >Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 18:32:58 -0400
> >
> >Thanks James.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: James Nuttall
> > To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 8:29 AM
> > Subject: [bookport] Scott noise reduction
> >
> >
> > Hello Scott:
> > I also wanted to cut out noise while I listened to my BP. What you
> >want to buy is called "noise reduction ear muffs". Unfortunately,
> >after long searching there is nothing it totally blocks out other
> >people's conversations. But I found a good selection of helpful
> >noise reduction ear muffs at the following web site:
> > http://www.soundproofing.org/sales/ear_muffs.htm
> > James Nuttall -- Michigan
> >
> > Scott Huddleson <hudd61@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > I would like to know if there are any which do cut out speech.
> >The people I
> > live with get rather loud at times.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Foxtrot"
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 2:33 AM
> > Subject: [bookport] Re: Bookport synthesizer
> >
> >
> > >I use a fairly inexpensive noise canceling pair of headphones I
> >god from
> > > Radio Shack. They are great for airplane and train noise. You
> >can still
> > > hear speech from the surrounding area. Evidently, they pick up
> >the noise
> > > and counteract it with a similar noise that is out of phase
> >with the
> > > exterior sound. You do not hear this canceling sound, as it
> >offset by the
> > > surrounding sound. I don't think they would be great for crowd
> >sound, as
> > > it
> > > doesn't cancel out speech.
> > >
> > > Rick
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >[mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > On Behalf Of Hope Hein
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 3:59 PM
> > > To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [bookport] Re: Bookport synthesizer
> > >
> > > Does anyone use the noise canceling headphones? I have not
> >considered
> > > purchasing them because I do not know how they work. I wonder
> >if the make
> > > some kind of sound which is supposed to cancel out the other
> >noises and
> > > can
> > > one hear that sound? My ears are kind of sensitive to sounds.
> > > Hope
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > .From: "Lou Kolb"
> > > .Sent: 9/14/06 2:08:18 PM
> > > .To: "bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"
> > > .Subject: [bookport] Re: Bookport synthesizer
> > > .
> > > .I don't use them but there are various noise canceling
> >headphones
> > > available
> > > .that others on the list can tell you more about. They do tend
> >to be more
> > > .expensive. Lou
> > > .----- Original Message -----
> > > .From: "Joni Colver"
> > > .To:
> > > .Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 1:13 PM
> > > .Subject: [bookport] Re: Bookport synthesizer
> > > .
> > > .
> > > .> Hope I do not hear a crackling sound, but, I did notice more
> >background
> > > .> noise when using the Double Talk and the provided earbuds. I
> >like the
> > > .sound
> > > .> better with my Sennheiser headphones. Do you have any
> >headphones to
> > > try
> > > .to
> > > .> see if the sound is better with them than with the earbuds?
> > > .>
> > > .> Joni
> > > .>
> > > .>
> > > .
> > > .
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 17:33:21 -0500
> >From: Sandy Licht <slicht@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [bookport] Re: Getting books for my BP
> >
> >If you are a US citizen, you could join the National Library Service
> >program. You could join Bookshare. Or you could go to Gutenburg for
> >
> >Public Domain books. Gutenburg has a lot of good ones.
> >
> >At 07:17 PM 9/15/2006, Chase Crispin wrote:
> >>Hi everyone. I don't really have that much stuff on my book port
> >even
> >>though I got it early this summer. All that I am needing is a
> >suggestion on
> >>where to get books. Please have it be a good source, and I want it
> >to have
> >>a lot of books. Thank You.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Chase Crispin
> >>Arbor Park student
> >>Home phone: 4025332815
> >>Cell Phone 4024274006
> >>Address: 3083 College Drive Blair NE. 68008
> >>chasec@xxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>--
> >>No virus found in this incoming message.
> >>Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> >>Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date:
> >9/15/2006
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 17:35:14 -0500
> >From: Sandy Licht <slicht@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [bookport] Re: Getting books for my BP
> >
> >Try
> >www.blackmask.com
> >
> >
> >At 07:25 PM 9/15/2006, Walt Smith wrote:
> >>Have you looked at the information that's already printed in the
> >Book Port
> >>manual? Also, I posted a web site here just a week or so ago:
> >>
> >>http://fredsheadcompanion.blogspot.com/2006/08/project-gutenberg-and
> >-other-online.html
> >>
> >>And some other resources are:
> >>
> >>http://www.bitbooks.com/
> >>http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Chase Crispin" <chasec@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >>To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 8:17 PM
> >>Subject: [bookport] Getting books for my BP
> >>
> >>
> >>Hi everyone. I don't really have that much stuff on my book port
> >even
> >>though I got it early this summer. All that I am needing is a
> >suggestion on
> >>where to get books. Please have it be a good source, and I want it
> >to have
> >>a lot of books. Thank You.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Chase Crispin
> >>Arbor Park student
> >>Home phone: 4025332815
> >>Cell Phone 4024274006
> >>Address: 3083 College Drive Blair NE. 68008
> >>chasec@xxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>--
> >>No virus found in this incoming message.
> >>Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> >>Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date:
> >9/15/2006
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 17:44:30 -0500
> >From: Sandy Licht <slicht@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [bookport] Re: Getting books for my BP
> >
> >Did you have fun downloading The Scottish Chiefs? I would not do
> >that again on a bet! I think you can now download the complete text
> >all at once from Gutenburg.
> >
> >Here's the inside joke. With some books in HTML, you have to
> >download the book a chapter at a time, pasting the chapters into a
> >word processor document. I sort of recommended the Scottish Chiefs
> >to Michael. That book is close to 70 chapters long! I DID warn him,
> >
> >though. It gives a whole new meaning to the word, "tedious".
> >
> >At 01:04 PM 9/16/2006, Michael Bowman-Jones wrote:
> >>Greetings Walt and List,
> >>Well, turns out it didn't work--all I got was the Table of Contents
> >>page. It does make me wonder though if a book could be transferred
> >>by chapter, which could be real tedious if the volume has 60-70
> >>chapters in it. I know this will bring a laugh out of a certain
> >>list participant out there--I was messing around with The Scottish
> >Chiefs.
> >>
> >>Michael
> >>
> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Walt Smith" <walt@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >>To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 7:05 AM
> >>Subject: [bookport] Re: Getting books for my BP
> >>
> >>
> >>>If you use JAWS, press JAWS Key (INSERT)+T to see what's happening.
> >I didn't
> >>>realize you could download directly to the BP, but I've never
> >fiddled around
> >>>with Book Port Spider, either.
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Bowman-Jones"
> >>><mikebowmanjones@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 3:04 AM
> >>>Subject: [bookport] Re: Getting books for my BP
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Hi, David and List.
> >>>
> >>>Here's a follow-up to Chase's question. Once a book has been found
> >and the
> >>>download is attempted, is there a way to monitor or check the
> >ongoing
> >>>status? (I did not see such in the manual but I could have missed
> >it.) As
> >>>a "newbie" so to speak, just for grins I went to the .edu link
> >listed in
> >>>Walt's previous message and found a book to download. Alt-f did
> >nothing for
> >>>me option-wise, so I tried the Applications menu, which offered up
> >the BP
> >>>Spider. Even as we speak, the unit seems to be doing something, as
> >I get an
> >>>eight-note tune every so often. (I was expecting a beep more than
> >a tune.)
> >>>Given that I am not sure what's happening, I am just letting it do
> >its
> >>>thing. Is what I describe supposed to be happening? (If not, I
> >guess I
> >>>will have to go back to the manual and do some more re-reading.)
> >>>
> >>>Thanks in advance to whomever lends their expertise; it is highly
> >>>appreciated.
> >>>
> >>>God Bless you all and have a great day.
> >>>Michael
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>
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> >9/15/2006
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 17:46:44 -0500
> >From: Sandy Licht <slicht@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [bookport] Re: Scott noise reduction
> >
> >Ear muffs? I wouldn't think so, unless you mean earphones. You can
> >find noise-cancelling headphones almost anywhere.
> >
> >At 07:29 AM 9/16/2006, James Nuttall wrote:
> >>Hello Scott:
> >>I also wanted to cut out noise while I listened to my BP. What you
> >>want to buy is called "noise reduction ear muffs". Unfortunately,
> >>after long searching there is nothing it totally blocks out other
> >>people's conversations. But I found a good selection of helpful
> >>noise reduction ear muffs at the following web site:
> >><http://www.soundproofing.org/sales/ear_muffs.htm>http://www.soundpr
> >oofing.org/sales/ear_muffs.htm
> >>James Nuttall -- Michigan
> >>
> >>Scott Huddleson <hudd61@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>I would like to know if there are any which do cut out speech. The
> >people I
> >>live with get rather loud at times.
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Foxtrot"
> >>To:
> >>Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 2:33 AM
> >>Subject: [bookport] Re: Bookport synthesizer
> >>
> >>
> >> >I use a fairly inexpensive noise canceling pair of headphones I
> >god from
> >> > Radio Shack. They are great for airplane and train noise. You can
> >still
> >> > hear speech from the surrounding area. Evidently, they pick up
> >the noise
> >> > and counteract it with a similar noise that is out of phase with
> >the
> >> > exterior sound. You do not hear this canceling sound, as it
> >offset by the
> >> > surrounding sound. I don't think they would be great for crowd
> >sound, as
> >> > it
> >> > doesn't cancel out speech.
> >> >
> >> > Rick
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >[mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> > On Behalf Of Hope Hein
> >> > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 3:59 PM
> >> > To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Subject: [bookport] Re: Bookport synthesizer
> >> >
> >> > Does anyone use the noise canceling headphones? I have not
> >considered
> >> > purchasing them because I do not know how they work. I wonder if
> >the make
> >> > some kind of sound which is supposed to cancel out the other
> >noises and
> >> > can
> >> > one hear that sound? My ears are kind of sensitive to sounds.
> >> > Hope
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > .From: "Lou Kolb"
> >> > .Sent: 9/14/06 2:08:18 PM
> >> > .To: "bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"
> >> > .Subject: [bookport] Re: Bookport synthesizer
> >> > .
> >> > .I don't use them but there are various noise canceling
> >headphones
> >> > available
> >> > .that others on the list can tell you more about. They do tend to
> >be more
> >> > .expensive. Lou
> >> > .----- Original Message -----
> >> > .From: "Joni Colver"
> >> > .To:
> >> > .Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 1:13 PM
> >> > .Subject: [bookport] Re: Bookport synthesizer
> >> > .
> >> > .
> >> > .> Hope I do not hear a crackling sound, but, I did notice more
> >background
> >> > .> noise when using the Double Talk and the provided earbuds. I
> >like the
> >> > .sound
> >> > .> better with my Sennheiser headphones. Do you have any
> >headphones to
> >> > try
> >> > .to
> >> > .> see if the sound is better with them than with the earbuds?
> >> > .>
> >> > .> Joni
> >> > .>
> >> > .>
> >> > .
> >> > .
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>No virus found in this incoming message.
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> >9/15/2006
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 19:09:25 -0400
> >From: "Joseph Norton" <joseph.norton@xxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [bookport] Re: Getting books for my BP
> >
> >What about using the Spyder? Wouldn't that work? The BookPort
> >Spyder
> >is on the start menu under the programs for the BookPort transfer
> >software.
> >
> >On 9/16/06, Sandy Licht <slicht@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> Did you have fun downloading The Scottish Chiefs? I would not do
> >> that again on a bet! I think you can now download the complete
> >text
> >> all at once from Gutenburg.
> >>
> >> Here's the inside joke. With some books in HTML, you have to
> >> download the book a chapter at a time, pasting the chapters into a
> >> word processor document. I sort of recommended the Scottish Chiefs
> >> to Michael. That book is close to 70 chapters long! I DID warn
> >him,
> >> though. It gives a whole new meaning to the word, "tedious".
> >>
> >> At 01:04 PM 9/16/2006, Michael Bowman-Jones wrote:
> >> >Greetings Walt and List,
> >> >Well, turns out it didn't work--all I got was the Table of
> >Contents
> >> >page. It does make me wonder though if a book could be transferred
> >> >by chapter, which could be real tedious if the volume has 60-70
> >> >chapters in it. I know this will bring a laugh out of a certain
> >> >list participant out there--I was messing around with The Scottish
> >Chiefs.
> >> >
> >> >Michael
> >> >
> >> >----- Original Message ----- From: "Walt Smith" <walt@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 7:05 AM
> >> >Subject: [bookport] Re: Getting books for my BP
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>If you use JAWS, press JAWS Key (INSERT)+T to see what's
> >happening. I
> >> didn't
> >> >>realize you could download directly to the BP, but I've never
> >fiddled
> >> around
> >> >>with Book Port Spider, either.
> >> >>
> >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Bowman-Jones"
> >> >><mikebowmanjones@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 3:04 AM
> >> >>Subject: [bookport] Re: Getting books for my BP
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>Hi, David and List.
> >> >>
> >> >>Here's a follow-up to Chase's question. Once a book has been
> >found and
> >> the
> >> >>download is attempted, is there a way to monitor or check the
> >ongoing
> >> >>status? (I did not see such in the manual but I could have
> >missed it.) As
> >> >>a "newbie" so to speak, just for grins I went to the .edu link
> >listed in
> >> >>Walt's previous message and found a book to download. Alt-f did
> >nothing
> >> for
> >> >>me option-wise, so I tried the Applications menu, which offered
> >up the BP
> >> >>Spider. Even as we speak, the unit seems to be doing something,
> >as I get
> >> an
> >> >>eight-note tune every so often. (I was expecting a beep more
> >than a
> >> tune.)
> >> >>Given that I am not sure what's happening, I am just letting it
> >do its
> >> >>thing. Is what I describe supposed to be happening? (If not, I
> >guess I
> >> >>will have to go back to the manual and do some more re-reading.)
> >> >>
> >> >>Thanks in advance to whomever lends their expertise; it is highly
> >> >>appreciated.
> >> >>
> >> >>God Bless you all and have a great day.
> >> >>Michael
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>__________ NOD32 1.1758 (20060915) Information __________
> >> >>
> >> >>This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.
> >> >>http://www.eset.com
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >--
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> >> >Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> >> >Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date:
> >9/15/2006
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >From: "Michelle Raymond" <mraymon2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [bookport] Re: Book port Speech
> >Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 19:18:45 -0400
> >
> >What the Book Port has is better than nothing, & some one has already
> >said that the Double Talk Speech is how APH kept the price down. I
> >have heard worse speech in more expensive products. I can understand
> >this one. I couldn't stand the speech in the Braille Lite or the
> >Braille & Speak. That's my .02.
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >From: "Michelle Raymond" <mraymon2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [bookport] Re: Getting books for my BP
> >Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 19:20:54 -0400
> >
> >What kind of books are you looking for? Are you looking for pleasure
> >or
> >school? I get a lot from audible.com, but I know Book Share i& RFB
> >are both
> >very good sources for books. I haven't looked in to many of the free
> >ones,
> >yet.
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >From: "David Tanner" <david-tanner@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [bookport] Re: Book port Speech
> >Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 21:18:46 -0500
> >
> >Tis very true! DoubleTalk has always ranked near the bottom of my
> >list of favorite synths, and I always wndered if the people who liked
> >DoubleTalk speech had a hearing problem. But, truth is, whether you
> >like a particular synthesizer or not is very subjective, and just
> >because I may not like it doesn't mean that I should criticize
> >someone else who does like it.
> >
> >Lois is right though; by playing with the pitch, and the verious
> >voices in DoubleTalk on the Book Port you can make it sound bearably
> >good. But, I would still vote for Dectalk myself.
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Lois Goodine" <al419@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 3:55 PM
> >Subject: [bookport] Re: Book port Speech
> >
> >
> >: Don't be afraid to experiment with pitch and speed settings of the
> >bookport
> >: speech. I found that you can actually have a fair bit of useful
> >inflection with
> >: it. Have fun!
> >: Lois Goodine.
> >:
> >:
> >:
> >: --
> >: No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >: Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> >: Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/448 - Release Date:
> >9/14/2006
> >:
> >:
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 22:26:56 -0400
> >From: "Linda Davis" <lindamay.davis@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [bookport] Question
> >
> >My husband tried to send a book from book share to his book port and
> >when he tried to send it, he got a message saying file not found.
> >How can this be corrected? The card isn't full, so should he try
> >another card though?
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 22:35:54 -0400
> >From: "Linda Davis" <lindamay.davis@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [bookport] Another question
> >
> >Can I put .rar books in the book port?
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 21:38:09 -0500 (CDT)
> >From: Bruce Toews <DogRiver@xxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [bookport] Re: Another question
> >
> >The manual, and the brochure on the Website, tell you which file
> >format
> >the Book Port supports. It's a complete list, so if your file type is
> >not
> >on the list, you can't use it with book Port. Specific to your
> >question,
> >no you can't.
> >
> >bruce
> >
> >--
> >Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
> >gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
> >
> >Bruce Toews
> >E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: DogRiver@xxxxxxxx
> >Live Journal: http://coke_drinker.livejournal.com
> >Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
> >Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
> >http://www.ogts.net
> >Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
> >
> >On Sat, 16 Sep 2006, Linda Davis wrote:
> >
> >> Can I put .rar books in the book port?
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >From: "David Allen" <wd8ldy@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [bookport] Re: Another question
> >Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 14:38:20 +1200
> >
> >Hi Linda and list:
> >Yes, after you have unrared them into some format that is appropriate
> >for the book port.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Dave
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Linda Davis
> > To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 2:35 PM
> > Subject: [bookport] Another question
> >
> >
> > Can I put .rar books in the book port?
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Subject: [bookport] Re: Book port Speech
> >Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 22:02:36 -0700
> >From: James Dean <professordean@xxxxxxxxx>
> >
> >The bookport synthesizer, the Doubletalk, is contained on a chip.
> >Since the bookport uses no flash memory for its own things, such as
> >the firmware etc., then there is no way that they could put a better
> >sounding synthesizer on it without using some memory on the card.
> >
> >James
> >
> >
> >MSN/Windows Messenger: jamesdean504@xxxxxxxxxxx Yahoo ID/Ham Radio
> >Callsign: kg4rdf Skype: semajd AIM: tootiki
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Milano Hyacinthe
> > To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 8:47 AM
> > Subject: [bookport] Book port Speech
> >
> >
> > The Bookport is a great device but it doesn't have a great sounding
> >voice synthesizer. I think that's a pore design for a reading device.
> >I think that the APH engineers should work on a more realistic voice
> >synth for the Bookport. Due to the fact that realistic synths are not
> >as expensive as before and are more easier to implement. Almost all
> >new devices that are develop now a days contain some great sounding
> >voice synth. For instance, the Eloquence voice synth software and the
> >ATT Real speak software are some great voice synthesizers. I possess
> >a Pacmate and a Voicemate and these devices contain some nice
> >sounding speech.
> >
> >
> > Milano Hyacinthe
> > University of Central Florida
> > Informaition Systems Technology
> > Site: http://mhtechguy.no-ip.info
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >From: "David Allen" <wd8ldy@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [bookport] Re: Getting books for my BP
> >Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 10:49:53 +1200
> >
> >Hi Sandy and list:
> >
> >The primary criteria for bookshare is US residency. Citizenship only
> >works
> >for NLS.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Dave
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Sandy Licht" <slicht@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 10:33 AM
> >Subject: [bookport] Re: Getting books for my BP
> >
> >
> >> If you are a US citizen, you could join the National Library
> >Service
> >> program. You could join Bookshare. Or you could go to Gutenburg
> >for
> >> Public Domain books. Gutenburg has a lot of good ones.
> >>
> >> At 07:17 PM 9/15/2006, Chase Crispin wrote:
> >>>Hi everyone. I don't really have that much stuff on my book port
> >even
> >>>though I got it early this summer. All that I am needing is a
> >suggestion
> >>>on
> >>>where to get books. Please have it be a good source, and I want it
> >to
> >>>have
> >>>a lot of books. Thank You.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Chase Crispin
> >>>Arbor Park student
> >>>Home phone: 4025332815
> >>>Cell Phone 4024274006
> >>>Address: 3083 College Drive Blair NE. 68008
> >>>chasec@xxxxxxxxxx
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>--
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> >9/15/2006
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 20:44:09 -0700
> >From: Betty Nobel <bnobels@xxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [bookport] (no subject)
> >
> >unsubscribe
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Subject: [bookport] Re: Book port Speech
> >Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 23:42:28 -0700
> >From: James Dean <professordean@xxxxxxxxx>
> >
> >Skip is horrid! My friend Amanda likes him, though. She adjusts the
> >pitch
> >and frequency all the way up. It has a hell of a lot of inflection,
> >but my
> >dear sweet Perfect Paul (LOL) left at default except rate which is
> >changed
> >to 6 is my prefference. I got my book port in 2004,...I think. The
> >School
> >for the blind here in TN started giving them to students like myself,
> >and
> >they were a really big hit. I love mine! I use rechargeable alcoline
> >(is
> >that how you spell that?) batteries bought from Radio shack. They
> >work
> >wonderfully!
> >
> >
> >James
> >
> >
> >MSN/Windows Messenger: jamesdean504@xxxxxxxxxxx Yahoo ID/Ham Radio
> >Callsign:
> >kg4rdf Skype: semajd AIM: tootiki
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Littlekat10" <littlekat10@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 5:28 PM
> >Subject: [bookport] Re: Book port Speech
> >
> >
> >> June says she likes Skip the best of the voices. I haven't heard
> >Skippy
> >> actually, just Paul and Pete and they are both pretty good.
> >>
> >> Littlekat
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Hope Hein" <hmhein@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 2:51 PM
> >> Subject: [bookport] Re: Book port Speech
> >>
> >>
> >> Good point!
> >>
> >> Smile.
> >> Hope
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> .From: "Walt Smith"<walt@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> .Sent: 9/14/06 11:59:15 AM
> >> .To: "bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> .Subject: [bookport] Re: Book port Speech
> >> .
> >> .The present synth (which, after a relatively brief period of
> >adjustment,
> >> I
> >> .find perfectly adequate) has two very distinct advantages:
> >> .
> >> .* It is small, allowing for installation in a device with
> >relatively
> >> limited
> >> .software and hardware space.
> >> .
> >> .* I strongly suspect that it's also inexpensive, helping keep the
> >cost
> >> down.
> >> .
> >> .Almost any of the newer software-only synthesizers will violate
> >both of
> >> .these requirements. The AT&T synthesizer is out because of the
> >huge
> >> amount
> >> .of space it takes up. Eloquence doesn't use quite as much, but I
> >suspect
> >> .that the licensing costs would be prohibitive. I very seriously
> >doubt
> >> that
> >> .there are a fraction as many Book Ports out there as copies of
> >JAWS.
> >> .
> >> .Arguing over synthesizers is nothing but a religious discussion.
> >No
> >> .synthesizer is superior or inferior--it's only superior or
> >inferior to
> >> the
> >> .person listening to it. By spending some time with the voice,
> >rate,
> >> pitch,
> >> .and frequency settings, I've been able to find a voice that is
> >perfectly
> >> .acceptable to me. Over the years, I've also learned that a lot of
> >> .dissatisfaction with a given synthesizer is based on the fact that
> >the
> >> user
> >> .has never varied the settings that are defaulted to and this is a
> >serious
> >> .mistake. I don't know how many people I've heard on the various
> >> JAWS-related
> >> .lists cry and whine about how incredibly bad Eloquence is only to
> >have
> >> them
> >> .admit that they've _never_ made any attempt at all to change the
> >pitch or
> >> .rate that are set by JAWS by default.
> >> .
> >> .----- Original Message -----
> >> .From: "Milano Hyacinthe" <nicemilano@xxxxxxx>
> >> .To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> .Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 11:47 AM
> >> .Subject: [bookport] Book port Speech
> >> .
> >> .
> >> .The Bookport is a great device but it doesn't have a great
> >sounding voice
> >> .synthesizer. I think that's a pore design for a reading device. I
> >think
> >> that
> >> .the APH engineers should work on a more realistic voice synth for
> >the
> >> .Bookport. Due to the fact that realistic synths are not as
> >expensive as
> >> .before and are more easier to implement. Almost all new devices
> >that are
> >> .develop now a days contain some great sounding voice synth. For
> >instance,
> >> .the Eloquence voice synth software and the ATT Real speak software
> >are
> >> some
> >> .great voice synthesizers. I possess a Pacmate and a Voicemate and
> >these
> >> .devices contain some nice sounding speech.
> >> .
> >> .
> >> .Milano Hyacinthe
> >> .
> >> .
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Subject: [bookport] Re: In Defense of DoubleTalk...
> >Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 23:44:05 -0700
> >From: James Dean <professordean@xxxxxxxxx>
> >
> >Howling doubletalk wolves? Huh? *very very very confused*! hehe
> >
> >
> >James
> >
> >
> >MSN/Windows Messenger: jamesdean504@xxxxxxxxxxx Yahoo ID/Ham Radio
> >Callsign:
> >kg4rdf Skype: semajd AIM: tootiki
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Hope Hein" <hmhein@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 7:30 PM
> >Subject: [bookport] Re: In Defense of DoubleTalk...
> >
> >
> >> What about those howling DoubleTalk wolves? Hope (grin)
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >[mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> On Behalf Of Nolan Crabb
> >> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 7:40 PM
> >> To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [bookport] Re: In Defense of DoubleTalk...
> >>
> >> He's just saying that cause we haven't invited him up since the
> >place was
> >> remodeled. LOL
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >End of bookport Digest V3 #259
> >******************************
> >
>
>
>
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