This is an interesting thought Kelly, but blind and "dis"abled folks have been battling this out for years before podcasting was even a hazy theoretical notion. I agree that it would be more efficient to keep the argument out of the general arena, but I'm not sure if a consensus could ever be reached. So maybe there should be a dis/ability category or "dis" ability category. Let's set off the idea of "dis," that way people are forced to notice it and question it. After all, ability is only " Dissed" by people who can't imagine that they would be "able" to do it. Rusty ____________________ Skype: rustyperez Yahoo and AIM: reliroo Check out my blog at http://rusty-perez.blogspot.com -----Original Message----- From: blindcasting-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:blindcasting-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 7:57 PM To: blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [Blind Casting] Re: Disabilities Node/Category Before we jump on Adam's back, perhaps we can work with disability-related podcasters and blind to develop the Podcast Pickle directory in the manner we believe would be of best service to the listeners. There is the tension between those who are blindcasters, those who openly discuss their blindness, technology, observations, and share with the listener every unique sound through three different microphones, and cross disability folks who broadcast to a diverse audience of people with disabilities. the cross disability folks often insist on no sub-categories, as this dilutes the universal notion of disability while others believe their particular disability makes them unique. It might be useful to work this issue out in our community first before we end up battling each other with a non-disabled party. Already, Adam has acknowledged on the Source code that he has received vigorous arguments from both of the camps that like either the word "blind" or visually impaired." without resolving this among ourselves first, we leave the non-disabled person at a loss of knowing what exactly to do. Kelly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelly" <shellyspodcasts@xxxxxxxxx> To: "Blindcasting List" <blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 5:17 PM Subject: [Blind Casting] Disabilities Node/Category Greetings, All the comments about the Disability node for iPodder are very interesting, and have given me several things to think about. I'm still committed to advocacy on this front. Next step is to resend my note to Mr. Curry, as an open letter, which will allow me to publish it around the podcasting community, I wanted to let you know, though, that there is a directory that does include a Disabilities category. That would be <a href=" http://www.podcastpickle.com";>Podcast Pickle</a>. Not many shows in that subcategory yet. It would be great if podcast producers on this list who want to identify their shows as disability-oriented would begin to get listed on the Pickle. You could even list yourself and use "blindness" as a keyword but not list yourself in the Disabilities category. On the Pickle, you get to pick two categories, plus you create your own sets of keywords. Adding your cast to the Pickle would help your own visibility and would add to the credibility of the Pickle directory as it positions itself in the directory sphere. They already has a number of great features, including search, and the ability to create a favorites list that others can browse. You can also play podcasts directly from each podcaster's page. The Disabilities subcategory on Podcast Pickle is within the Society top-level category. By the way, I own no stock in the Pickle. What I like about it is that competition with Podcast Alley and, to a lesser extent, IndiePodder, has caused the Pickle to be very innovative and responsive to its users. -shelly -- Shelly Brisbin, Writer, Editor, Geek for Hire Shelly's Podcast: http://shellyspodcast.blogspot.com Get the feed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/ShellysPodcast Podcast Outlaws Network core member: http://www.podcastoutlaws.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.7/112 - Release Date: 9/26/2005