[blind-democracy] Re: New Subject - Regime Change - Yes or No

  • From: Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2015 16:52:38 -0500

When Americans talk about regime change, it is with the assumption that we
are the moral arbibers of the world, that somehow we have been chosen to
lead, as Hillary said we were the other night, and that we are morally and
politically superior to other countries. There is this imbedded fantasy that
we are more democratic than anyone else and that life here is better than it
is anywhere else. None of this is born out by evidence. When you read the
history of what really caused the US to go to war, the motives are always
finance and power. It turns out that the Japanese attack on us, could have
been avoided, that our government actually encouraged it as a cover for our
entry into World War 2 against Germany on the side of Great Britain. Our
wars have always been offensive and colonial. We've never been attacked on
our mainland by a country that wanted to conquer us. The 9/11 attack in New
York touched me in ways that I'll never ever get over. However, I do
understand that, that terrible shocking attack was blow back for what we had
been doing and supporting other countries doing, in the Middle East. No one
wanted to hear that fact in September 2001, nor do most people want to
contemplate it now.

Miriam

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Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: New Subject - Regime Change - Yes or No



Hi Dick,

Good post here. I'm with Sanders and Paul here. Regime change has cost us
tremendously in termes of injured and dead soldiers, the guilt over killing
thousands and destroying cities as well as power vacuums that get filled by
radical groups like ISIS.

Unfortunately, what we really need to do is to cut ties with nations like
Israel, Turkey and Saudi Arabia; none of the presidential candidates from
both powerful parties are willint to take these steps. . That is the only
way we'll ever see a reduction in terrorist attacks. And, I've not said a
word about reducing attacks from the radical Christian right.

From a purely military perspective, one ought not get involved in regime
change unless one is prepared to help build a truly stable government in the
place of the one that was removed and that means a lot more than paying off
a few corrupt indoviduals to be our puppets.

From a moral perspective, we have behaved very badly by all of the killing
and destruction we have brought to the Middle East. IT is understandable why
we are hated throughout much of the rest of the world.

Bob Hachey





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