I've read, and agreed with Krugman in the past. This was the first
time I've heard him in person...reminding me of why I avoid live
interviews...and he really pointed up one thing. His verbal shuffling
around the word socialism and his failure to stand up for full
Medicare for all, in any meaningful form, speaks loud and clear, the
position so many "liberal democrats" are holding. It's the wishy
washy position that is losing for the Progressives.
I found it interesting that Richard Wolff has always said he is a
Marxist, but Amy Goodman introduced him as a social economist. Maybe
because of the title of his latest book.
Carl Jarvis
On 2/24/20, miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I thought, at first, that Krugman sounded reasonable. But then, as the
discussion progressed and he said more and more, I realized that he was
basically being an apologist for the arguments of more centrist candidates.
It wasn't clear to me until he talked more about medical coverage. He moved
from a single payer health system, to advocating for anything, including a
public option and he began talking about people being frightened by losing
their private medical insurance. It was a very sneaky, dishonest
presentation because he began by saying one thing and then subtly switched
positions in the middle of the discussion.
Miriam
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Amy Goodman had Paul Krugmann and Richard Wolff on Democracy Now, this
morning, discussing Socialism and Bernie Sanders. My personal feeling was
that Wolff made the www.democracynow.org better points.
Carl Jarvis
On 2/23/20, miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Ryan Grim <badnews@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 4:12 PM
To: miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Can Bernie beat Trump?
Yes and no.
Can Bernie beat Trump?
Yes and no.
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Feb 23
After trailing just a few weeks ago in Nevada to Joe Biden, Bernie
Sanders won a resounding victory there Saturday, and might even come
away with all of the delegates once the precincts have been counted.
Biden has dropped 17 points in South Carolina while Sanders is rising,
meaning Bernie could sweep the first four states, setting himself up
to effectively put it away on Super Tuesday, just 9 days from now.
That has produced an understandable round of panic from Democrats
worried that Sanders will lose badly in November. And, of course,
that’s entirely possible, but
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less risky than any of the other potential candidates. Mike Bloomberg
is trailing Trump by 3 points in the latest, while Sanders is beating
Trump by 3. Given Bloomberg’s debating abilities and general lack of
charisma, it’s hard to imagine how he actually gains ground in the
face of a Republican onslaught. Biden just doesn’t have it anymore.
Buttigieg and Klobuchar have never polled well against Trump, and
Warren has had the same problem (though she polls better than Amy and
Pete). Perhaps any of them could win, but there’s no reason to think
that’s more likely than Sanders winning.
Indeed, Sanders’ showing among Latinos in Nevada -- he won more than
70%, turned them out at a higher rate and he’s known in the Latino
community as Tio Bernie -- suggests that Sanders could put Arizona in
play. Trump won Arizona by four points, but it has tilted further
Democratic since. He would then need to win just two of the three Rust
Belt states Clinton lost in ‘16.
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wrote about the Latino vote there.
When people talk about Sanders as a disaster, they’re sometimes
referring to how swing-district House members in the suburbs would do.
And that’s fair:
Sanders’ strength is not with wealthier, whiter suburbs, but with
working class voters and people of color. The question will be how
much their feelings about Sanders versus Trump influence their House
vote. I simply don’t know the answer to that.
What we do know is that we don’t know anything. The leadership of
Nevada’s powerful Culinary Union spent the week leading into the
caucuses locked in a bitter feud with Sanders, yet Culinary workers
went overwhelmingly for Sanders. R.J. Eskow, a former insurance
analyst who’s now a progressive journalist, closely analyzed the
Culinary health care plan and finds that their benefits are indeed
good, but would be far better under Medicare for All.
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If you watch just one thing this weekend,
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