I was 4 years old when Pearl Harbor was bombed. I was 8 years old when the
atom bombs were dropped on Japan. During the 4 years that our country was
involved in that war, everyone, including children, felt involved. We may
not have understood everything that was happening, but we were part of it.
There was rationing, for one thing, and we had Victory gardens growing food,
supposedly so that the government could send food to soldiers. My father
was an air raid warden and he had to patrol on certain nights. I remember
his white helmet with a picture of a flag on it, I think, or perhaps it was
just red, white, and blue stripes. On the radio, there were all these love
songs like, "I Walk Alone", which reminded us of the women waiting at home
while the soldiers were at war. One of my uncles was a soldier, serving in
europe. One was a sailor in the Pacific, and one was in the Coast Guard, all
of them away from home. My mother's sister lived with us while her husband
was in the Pacific. And it seems like, as soon as the war was over, there
was all of this emphasis on anti Communism. So I really can't remember a
time when I wasn't aware on some level, of what our government was doing,
and of our country's relationship to the rest of the world.
Miriam
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I can't say that I was completely apolitical at the age of thirteen either
even if I now look back at my politics at that time as a bit kooky now, but
fifty-six years ago I was six years old and at that time I was about as
apolitical as you could get.
On 8/25/2016 9:39 PM, Miriam Vieni wrote:
I don't think I was ever apolitical. I remember watching thewas.
Keyfauver senate hearings on TV when I was 13 years old. I think they
were investigating organized crime. And Edward R. Murrow had a real
honest to God informative news reporting program on CBS TV back then.
And I was into folk music which was political because Pete Seeger,
Woodie Guthrie, Leadbelly, the Weavers, they were all singing
political songs and involved with Communists and former Communists.
Miriam
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56 years ago I was about as apolitical as you get. I don't think I had
even heard about god yet.
On 8/25/2016 10:05 AM, Carl Jarvis wrote:
If email existed 56 years ago, and if I had joined Blind Democracy,
even though I had not yet become blind, you would have met a very
different man.
Newly married...for the first time, I was still working through my
Christian Experience, I talked a great deal about my "Black" friends,
my views on women's rights were pretty much in line with the
teachings of the day, and you don't even want to know how Homophobic I
wrote:Despite believing myself to be a Liberal...as defined in that longhis sexual proclivities.
forgotten day, and despite my belief that my roots were deep in the
Working Class, and I was on my way toward becoming Middle Class,
despite how wonderful I thought I was, I'd not vote for that man for
Dog Catcher, today.
But fortunately we all have the choice to change. Based on Life's
Experiences we become "born again" many times over. That is, if we
allow ourselves to do so.
Today I think I'd make a pretty good Dog Catcher, and I'd never care
one whit about the dog's color or sexual orientation.
So I base the fact that I cannot vote for Clinton, based on the face
she presents to me. Yes, she is a mix of positives and negatives,
but her involvement in a government that is murdering innocent people
around the globe, even at home, speaks far too loudly for me to
ignore. Once in office, Hillary Clinton could change. She will have
the opportunities to do so. And if she does prove that she is a new
woman...a better leader than Barak Obama or Bill Clinton, then I
would decide to vote for her based on this new track record.
For better or for worse, I am not the same person I was in 1965, and
I would not want to have my views and actions of that day dragged out
and waved in front of the world of today. Of course, who I am today,
a work in progress, is based on all of the experiences and emotional
struggles I experienced back then, so I do not pretend they never
existed, even though it is no longer me.
And finally, if I'm around in another 20 years(101), I hope that I am
looking at a changed person. I never want to be cast in stone. If
that were the case, and my life became unchanging, I'd be better off
under the stone.
Carl Jarvis
On 8/24/16, Roger Loran Bailey <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I am reminded of my stepmother. It has been quite a few years now
since I last spoke to her, but the last time I did she, for some
reason, went on and on about how she accepts the fact that one of
her three sons, my stepbrother, is gay. It seems to me that if she
accepts it so well she would not make such a big deal of how well
she accepts it without anyone else even having mentioned it.
Personally, except to make this point right now, I never see the
need to even mention
rule.It has been quite a while since I have spoken to him too, but I have
several times since I last spoke to my stepmother and his sexual
orientation did not even come up. And it certainly isn't like he
doesn't know that I know.
On 8/24/2016 11:46 AM, Alice Dampman Humel wrote:
Just because Trump's son in law is an Orthodox Jew and his daughter
converted doesn't mean that Trump is not an anti-Semite. How many
times do we see it that a racist will accept his son's black wife,
but still retains his prejudices and bigotry about other black
people, a homophobe will accept her daughter's girlfriend but
otherwise remain a homophobe.
People often circle the wagons when it comes to their own children
or other family members, but it does not change their bigotry, it
makes an exception for their own, and it's the exception that
proves the
I knew a woman, old, elder, whatever you want to call it, who was
as white bread as they come, and when one of her children or
grandchildren, I forget which married an African American, the
woman could never speak about him without adding, "He's the nicest
person you'd ever want to meet."
Now what does that tell you, that she had to inform you that this
black man was a nice person? Would she have done the same for a
white guy? She never added that phrase when talking about the
spouses of her other progeny...
And, anyway, there's something extra creepy about Donald's
interactions with Ivanka...On Aug 23, 2016, at 1:18 PM, Miriam
Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
margin?
Bob,
In response to your last point, I think that people of color voted
for Clinton because they were misinformed by the mass media and by
their own leaders who are bought off by the Democratic Party
establishment. How many of them, for example, know that the board
of the Congressional Black Caucus is made up largely of CEO's of
corporations, not black congressional representatives? Remember
that when Obama first started campaigning for the Presidency, all
of the black establishment leaders were supporting Hillary.
People are not given facts. Remember Trump's supposedly anti
semitic tweet?
How many people know that he has an Orthodox Jewish son-in-law and
that his daughter, so active in his campaign, converted to
Judaism when she married?
My point is that everything that is said and done in campaigns is
for public consumption and is completely unrelated to reality.
Miriam
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Hi Charlie,
Firstly, glad you got to have that good experience in Colorado. I
recently attended the wedding of my sinster-in-law to a great guy
and it was wonderful.
Secondly, I agree completely with you that a President Trump is
unthinkable.
But I cant bring myself to say that Clinton is good, just a good
bit less bad.
Frankly, I believe that, in many ways, we have been regressing as
a society since the election of Ronald Reagan and some of that
regression has taken place under Clinton and even under Obama.
IT sickens me to the core to see corporatist Democrats like the
Clintons and John Kerry continually coddling our wealthiest
citizens. Yes, they sometimes talk a good game, but when the
rubber meets the road, they always seem to not go far enough.
It is surely not all their fault as the Republicans seem to be
better at negative campaigning and boy am I disgusted by how well
negative campaigning seems to work in this so-called civilized
society.
Bottom line here. What does it say about our society when Hillary
Clinton seems to be the best we can do?
One more point here. How do we explain the fact that members of
minority populations chose Clinton over Sanders by a rather wide
Frankly, I
believe that they were not voting in favor of their best econbomic
interests.
Bob Hachey