[blind-chess] Re: Revising Help Rules

  • From: "Jim" <jhomme1028@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <blind-chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 15:05:14 -0400

Hi,

Another way of saying what I'm trying to say is this. You can and should
study chess even while you're playing games to get better in general, but
you shouldn't try to intentionally consult some source, no matter what it
is, for move suggestions. 

 

Thanks.

 

Jim

 

Jim Homme

Skype: jim.homme

"Every day's a gift."

 

From: blind-chess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-chess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of R Dinger
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 2:37 PM
To: chess
Subject: [blind-chess] Revising Help Rules

 

Hi All,

 

Because of the correspondence chess tradition of using print reference
materials, this could be a difficult rule change.

 

For many years correspondence chess players used books and their own past
games as references when playing.  I think this was used mostly to get the
first few moves of a specific opening correct, but studying your own
previous games could sometimes help avoid common pitfalls as well.  The
whole notion of references was not much of an issue, though, because
manually searching through piles of written material took too much time.

 

Now with the introduction of personal computers and the availability of low
cost databases of literally millions of games, the problem landscape has
changed dramatically.  As Johannes correctly points out, the better
researcher has an advantage over his opponent no matter the opponent's chess
skill.

 

Some chess game databases allow you to just enter your FEN position and the
software tells you what the best next move is based on the millions of
master level games in the database.  You don't even need to enter the moves,
just the current position.  And someone told me recently that some databases
don't even need the exact FEN they will find the closest ones.  But is that
really playing chess or just running some software.  To me it seems a little
like entering a marathon race and showing up to compete on a bicycle.

 

So where do we on the blind chess list want to draw the line?

 

Clearly using a chess engine or discussing your game with the local chess
Grand Master that is giving you chess lessons is out.  And maybe looking up
your first few moves in the ECO in order to find the name and number of the
opening could probably be allowed.  But what about the rest of it?

 

Nothing is really enforceable, though, and we must rely on the honor system.
I will make the rule whatever appears to be the general consensus of the
blind chess members.  So far I think the idea of absolutely no help seems to
be winning.

 

Some more ideas you might consider:

* Keeping the current rules.

* Limit to written articles and books only, like ECo or articles on a
specific opening.

* You must inform your opponent of any reference you use and furnish your
opponent a copy.

* No game databases or any published historical games.

* No chess software at all, like engines or databases like chess base.

* No opening advisor sites or automated opening software.

* Absolutely nothing but your own memory.

 

Any more ideas or additional comments?

 

Richard

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