[blind-chess] Re: Revising Help Rules

  • From: "alvin blazik" <ablazik@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <blind-chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2010 15:24:12 -0400

I believe that the Game Help rules are fine just the way they stand.
What is so difficult to understand about " no computers or electronic games"?
I am not in favor of making it acceptable to show up for a marathon with a 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: R Dinger
To: chess
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 2:37 PM
Subject: [blind-chess] Revising Help Rules

Hi All,

Because of the correspondence chess tradition of using print reference 
materials, this could be a 
difficult rule change.

For many years correspondence chess players used books and their own past games 
as references when 
playing.  I think this was used mostly to get the first few moves of a specific 
opening correct, but 
studying your own previous games could sometimes help avoid common pitfalls as 
well.  The whole 
notion of references was not much of an issue, though, because manually 
searching through piles of 
written material took too much time.

Now with the introduction of personal computers and the availability of low 
cost databases of 
literally millions of games, the problem landscape has changed dramatically.  
As Johannes correctly 
points out, the better researcher has an advantage over his opponent no matter 
the opponent's chess 

Some chess game databases allow you to just enter your FEN position and the 
software tells you what 
the best next move is based on the millions of master level games in the 
database.  You don't even 
need to enter the moves, just the current position.  And someone told me 
recently that some 
databases don't even need the exact FEN they will find the closest ones.  But 
is that really playing 
chess or just running some software.  To me it seems a little like entering a 
marathon race and 
showing up to compete on a bicycle.

So where do we on the blind chess list want to draw the line?

Clearly using a chess engine or discussing your game with the local chess Grand 
Master that is 
giving you chess lessons is out.  And maybe looking up your first few moves in 
the ECO in order to 
find the name and number of the opening could probably be allowed.  But what 
about the rest of it?

Nothing is really enforceable, though, and we must rely on the honor system.  I 
will make the rule 
whatever appears to be the general consensus of the blind chess members.  So 
far I think the idea of 
absolutely no help seems to be winning.

Some more ideas you might consider:
* Keeping the current rules.
* Limit to written articles and books only, like ECo or articles on a specific 
* You must inform your opponent of any reference you use and furnish your 
opponent a copy.
* No game databases or any published historical games.
* No chess software at all, like engines or databases like chess base.
* No opening advisor sites or automated opening software.
* Absolutely nothing but your own memory.

Any more ideas or additional comments?


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