[bksvol-discuss] Re: word processors
- From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mrenae@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:31:39 -0700
Hi Jake!
Thanks for the heads up about the fact that wordpad won't recognize
section breaks. For Roger, who is currently using wordpad to validate, we
should warn that books scanned by Carrie, unless she has taken to converting
section breaks to page breaks before submitting should be avoided as
validations when using wordpad to validate.
Perhaps if there are any others out there using Fine Reader to scan and
recognize, could you let us know that and whether you habitually convert
section breaks to page breaks before submission, so that folks who might be
using wordpad can know what to avoid, if anything?
Just ideas to keep in mind, I guess.
Mayrie
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jake Brownell
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:23 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: word processors
Hi Mayrie,
Yes I'm out here. I had some catching up to do on list mail. As it looks
like you've discovered WordPad is a viable tool for validations so long as
you know its few quirks. For example CTRL+ENTER won't insert a page break,
but you can copy/paste one into place.
I believe the major limitation came up when it was discovered that WordPad
did not recognize section breaks and had no mechanism to convert section
breaks to page breaks. Gerald and I at least weren't able to figure it out a
year or two ago.
All in all though WordPad probably works with 95% of validations, for the
other 5% its best to use a more powerful tool.
Best regards,
Jake
Jake Brownell
jake.b@xxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mrenae@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 7:23 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: word processors
> Hi Roger,
>
> You are not the first person to say that Wordpad retains and JAWS
> announces
> page breaks while reading rtf documents in the past year or so. It is
> possible that advances in software have occurred since we were all warned
> against using Wordpad to validate. I do have a question, to clarify, not
> to
> contradict you. Does JAWS actually say "page break" when you pass over a
> page break? If so, perhaps Jake (Are you out there Jake?) could comment
> on
> this for us. Jake is kind of our computer geeky guru, or at least I hold
> him in high esteem in these matters. You may be able, Roger, to increase
> the options for validators if you can tell us exactly what you hear JAWS
> say
> when you are reading continuously, and when you down or up arrow past a
> page
> break when using Wordpad to validate an rtf document. It would be neat if
> things have changed that would allow more validation options for
> validators!
> I look forward to knowing more!
>
> Mayrie
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx
> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 4:16 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: word processors
>
> Well, I don't know why mine is working different than you would have
> expected unless my incompetence is causing me to do something that changes
> the way word pad works, but I am hearing every page break that comes along
> announced while using word pad. In a message dated 7/20/2008 3:30:09 P.M.
> Pacific Daylight Time, thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>
> Roger, remember you will be able to find page breaks with speech
> using Word but not using Wordpad.
>
> So you probably want to validate with something other than wordpad
> so
> your speech synthesizer reads you page breaks.
>
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