[bksvol-discuss] Re: word processors
- From: Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:28:29 EDT
Can you believe this? I can't find my Microsoft Word. I just looked through
all programs and it doesn't seem to be there. The only thing I can think of
that might have happened to it is that the last time my hard drive was
reformatted, which was over a year ago at least, it was not reinstalled. I
suppose I
will have to wait for someone to help me go through my disks. In a message
dated 7/20/2008 8:01:30 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, mrenae@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
Hi Roger,
You could save another copy of your file with a slightly different
name, so that you won't lose what you have. You could then open either copy
in Microsoft Word, and use Christina's instructions to reinsert the page
break, save the file so as to preserve that inserted page break, then close
and go back to working in the word processor that you're used to using.
This instance that you describe might be one motivation to try working in
word. It really isn't all that different. Perhaps a little slower as
Microsoft Word is kind of a hog of resources, but pretty similar to use.
Also, in case you didn't know, when you downloaded the book from Bookshare,
if you didn't delete the zip file from which you extracted your file, you
can always extract again if you need a new copy of the book to start from
scratch with. You just need to either be prepared to have your messed up
file overwritten, or make sure to extract the second copy of the zip file to
another folder than the one to which you extracted the first copy.
I know all of that sounds like kind of a lot, but everything new does, and
we were all new once. I remember being daunted by things that I do now as a
matter of routine. It does get easier. If I've been unclear, please, feel
free to say so, and I'll give better or different instructions.
Good luck!
Mayrie
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: word processors
I just tried that and it inserts a blank line, just like it would do without
the control key. In a message dated 7/20/2008 7:37:21 P.M. Pacific Daylight
Time, greensleeves1@xxxxxxxxx writes:
Roger.
Try going to the spot where you want the page break to be and
hitting the
control key and the enter key simultaneously. That's how I insert
page
breaks in Microsoft Word so it might work for Wordpad.
Hope this helps.
Christina
----- Original Message -----
From: <Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 10:26 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: word processors
>
> Yes, it does say the words "page break." It does so whether I am
letting
> it
> read continuously or arrowing past it. It also reads it as a
single
> character,
> that is, when arrowing left or right one letter at a time it reads
the
> words
> page break as one single letter.
>
> Now, funny this should happen just when we were talking about page
breaks.
> I
> goofed. I was cleaning up one of those page headers in the current
book I
> am
> validating and something happened that just barely registered on
my
> consciousness at the time. After saving my changes I started to
feel
> uneasy about
> that particular fix so I opened the document to look at it again.
My
> suspicions
> were confirmed. I had accidentally deleted the page break between
page 28
> and
> page 29. Is there any way I can fix this without releasing it and
> downloading it all over again which I suppose would mean having to
start
> all over with
> everything? In a message dated 7/20/2008 5:24:28 P.M. Pacific
Daylight
> Time,
> mrenae@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>
> Hi Roger,
>
> You are not the first person to say that Wordpad retains and JAWS
> announces
> page breaks while reading rtf documents in the past year or so.
It is
> possible that advances in software have occurred since we were
all warned
> against using Wordpad to validate. I do have a question, to
clarify, not
> to
> contradict you. Does JAWS actually say "page break" when you
pass over a
> page break? If so, perhaps Jake (Are you out there Jake?) could
comment
> on
> this for us. Jake is kind of our computer geeky guru, or at
least I hold
> him in high esteem in these matters. You may be able, Roger, to
increase
> the options for validators if you can tell us exactly what you
hear JAWS
> say
> when you are reading continuously, and when you down or up arrow
past a
> page
> break when using Wordpad to validate an rtf document. It would
be neat
> if
> things have changed that would allow more validation options for
> validators!
> I look forward to knowing more!
>
> Mayrie
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx
> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 4:16 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: word processors
>
> Well, I don't know why mine is working different than you would
have
> expected unless my incompetence is causing me to do something
that
> changes
> the way word pad works, but I am hearing every page break that
comes
> along
> announced while using word pad. In a message dated 7/20/2008
3:30:09 P.M.
> Pacific Daylight Time, thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>
> Roger, remember you will be able to find page breaks with speech
> using Word but not using Wordpad.
>
> So you probably want to validate with something other than
wordpad
> so
> your speech synthesizer reads you page breaks.
>
> E.
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