[bksvol-discuss] Re: smart quotes
- From: james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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- Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 14:18:49 -0400
Hi Sue,
I can't tell if things are checked in Word 2003, so I opened an empty
document and put some text in quotes. Next, I put my cursor on one of the
quotes and typed the say character key three times. This is a JAWS key
stroke. Here is the test. If the character number is 34, you know it is not
a smart quote. Then, you can go back in and find the smart quotes entry and
press the space bar to flip it back the other way. Next, erase your test
text and try the test again to confirm that you now have it set.
Hope that helps.
Thanks.
Jim
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Hi Maria,
I found where it says replace straight quotes with smart quotes, but my
Braille display doesn't show a checkbox there. So how do I know if it is
checked or unchecked?
Sue S.
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From: "Maria Kristic" <maria6289@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 11:14 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: smart quotes
Hi Tracy,
The problem with smart quotes is that they appear as â characters in the
converted DAISY file which appears on Bookshare. This means that, in the
RTF
file, they will still appear as smart quotes and not as â characters. Smart
quotes and generic double quotes differ only in their ASCII values in terms
of how a screen reader will announce them and output them to a Braille
display, so to replace them, you'll have to do a Find/Replace in Word with
ASCII values. The opening smart quote is ASCII 147, the closing is ASCII
148, and the generic one is ASCII 34; to specify ASCII or ANSI characters
in
the Find/Replace dialog, type a caret (^, SHIFT+6), followed by the
character code. So, first perform a Find/Replace, typing ^0147 in the Find
edit field and ^0034 in the Replace edit field, and Replace All; then,
perform another Find/Replace, this time typing ^0148 in the Find field and
again ^0034 in the Replace field. If that doesn't work for you, omit the
first zero after the carets in
all cases (i.e., the sequence in each edit field would then be a caret
followed by a three-digit number). This should replace the smart quotes
with
normal ones.
Incidentally, and this is just an aside, though it relates, Word, by
default, is set to automatically replace normal quotes with smart quotes
when you type a quote (SHIFT+APOSTROPHE). If you want to disable this
specific replacement, go to Tools > AutoAutoCorrect Options in Word. You'll
land on the AutoCorrect tab, so CTRL+TAB once to land on the AutoFormat As
You Type tab You'll land in a list view of options. DOWN ARROW once to land
on the Straight Quotes with Smart Quotes check box. Press SPACE to uncheck
it, then ENTER to close the dialog/save changes.
HTH,
Maria
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-----Original Message-----
From: Tracy Carcione <carcione@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 11:27 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] smart quotes
I can't even find any a circumflex in my rtf file. Either this Bob is
making it up, or editing in rtf is totally pointless, and I might as well
give up validating altogether, as I appear to be completely wasting my
time.
I have gotten a lot of pleasure from validating for Bookshare over the
last 3 or 4 years, whatever it is, but how the hell can I fix things I
can't even find?
First I spend a lot of time working on a book that was a duplicate
submission, and now these stupid smart quotes, whatever that is. I'm very
frustrated!!!!!!
Tracy
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