Thanks, Gerald. That does clarify matters for me. Over the months/years we seem to get so much conflicting information I get confused. Cindy --- Gerald Hovas <geraldhovas@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Cindy, > > Yes, it really works. The page numbers aren't being > stripped, but modified > to allow the DAISY readers to recognize them. From > what I understand, the > problem is that not all DAISY file readers are being > designed to easily show > page numbers if a person wishes to see them. > > As for leaving a blank line between a header/footer > and the main text, I've > never left out the blank line between a > header/footer and the main text for > two reasons: I think it looks better with the blank > line in there, and, more > importantly, other volunteers have warned that > leaving it out will cause > problems with the Stripper recognizing the page > number. > > As for whether or not to put a blank line between a > header/footer and a page > break, I haven't noticed that it makes a difference > to the Stripper, and > leaving the extra blank lines out appears to cause > the Bookshare tools to > append the page number to the front of the following > paragraph when creating > the HTML file that is unpacked from the BKS file. > > HTH > > Gerald > > -----Original Message----- > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On > Behalf Of Cindy > Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 6:50 PM > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: reading 1776 > > > Thanks, Gerald, but does that really work? I know > it's > supposed to, but I thought page numbers were being > eliminated along with the headers. > > Where there are no headers, should the pge numbers > be > on the top line? I thought there was supposed to be > a > line spcae between page break and page number and > another betweenpage number and main test on page. > > Speaking of Daisy, Barb W. informed me that neither > the Daisy nor the BRF versions of The Amazing Bone > had the illustration descriptions. I've asked > Gustavo > what happened and what about the other Caldecott and > other children's books I've done. > > Cindy > > > --- Gerald Hovas <geraldhovas@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Cindy, > > > > The page number needs to be left on the same line > as > > the header. Otherwise, > > the page number is no longer part of the same > > paragraph as the header, and > > the Stripper will not be able to do it's job > > properly. Remember that the > > Stripper's main job is to recognize page numbers > and > > substitute DAISY tags > > to aid in navigation through the DAISY book. > > > > If you look back through the validation > instructions > > sent out when you > > became a volunteer, or in your case Cindy, > possibly > > the validation > > instructions that Janice sent out a month or two > > back as a reminder for the > > list, you'll find the following step in cleaning > up > > headers/footers. > > > > Check that page numbers should have a space on > > either side, > > separating them from the header/footer text. If > the > > page number is > > the first character in a header it does not need a > > space before it; or if > > it is the last character in a footer it does not > > need a space after it. > > > > Also, if page numbers appear in the headers, then > > simply placing the correct > > page number at the top of pages where chapters > begin > > will keep the Stripper > > happy and prevent it from stripping the chapter > > heading. > > > > HTH > > > > Gerald > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On > > Behalf Of Cindy > > Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 6:04 PM > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: reading 1776 > > > > > > I do the same thing. After recent discussions, > > though, > > if the headers are correctly spelled, I leave them > > so > > the stripper can do its work without deleting > > anything > > else, but I put the page number on the line > below. > > If a chapter starts on a new page, I put the word > > chapter or something else on the top line so the > > stripper will leave the Chapter title alone if it > > starts with the word chapter. > > > > Cindy > > > > > > > > --- Tracy Carcione <carcione@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > I don't quite get that. I handstrip headers as > a > > > matter of course. Takes a > > > bit longer, but at least the book isn't full of > > junk > > > headers. And it only > > > really adds a few hours to the time required, > max. > > > Tracy > > > At 05:35 PM 9/30/05 -0700, you wrote: > > > >Thank you and Gerald for correcting me. I > wonder > > > how I managed to download a > > > >"good" book. Actually all pages are there and > > page > > > breaks don't seem to be a > > > >problem. It does say who submitted the book; > > > obviously he thought the > > > >stripper would work but it didn't do so > > > consistently. Since one would have > > > >to have the book on hand to make the > corrections, > > I > > > guess the validator > > > >can't be blamed either. > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "Mike Pietruk" <pietruk@xxxxxxxxx> > > > >To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > >Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 7:59 PM > > > >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: reading 1776 > > > > > > > > > > > >> Jill > > > >> > > > >> Right now, the book has a "good" rather than > an > > > excellent rating. > > > >> This, of course, still > > > >> makes the book eligible for brailling. > > > >> Based on what you report, the end result > would > > > likely be disappointing. > > > >> What is even more disturbing is that the > > listing > > > for 1776 indicates a book > > > >> of 5 pages which means that the book is > either > > > incomplete or, in this > > > >> case, devoid of most of its page breaks. > > > >> I can see where headers might prove a problem > > on > > > a Braille display which > > > >> doesn't use true pagination. > > > >> Hopefully, someone down the road will rescan > > the > > > book and replace the copy > > > >> which is in the collection. > > > >> Incidentally, the submitter of the book is > > > unknown as it is that infamous > > > >> "a bookshare volunteer". > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank > > Email > > > to > > > >> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the > > > subject line. 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