[bksvol-discuss] Re: page breaks in text files

  • From: Guido Corona <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 12:21:36 -0500

Tracey,  I remember similar crashes when using K1K on Windows Millennium, 
but have not seen them since I migrated to XP.  What operating system are 
you using?
What speech engine are you using in K1K?
If you have Microsoft Speech API 3.0 in control panel Add/Remove,  you 
also may have another source of instability.

Lastly,  if the file you are working on has very long lines with very long 
pseudowords full of junk chars,  K1K can also crash.

Guido


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IBM Research,
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Tracy Carcione <carcione@xxxxxxxxx> 
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Guido,
I discussed it at length with Kurzweil some time ago, but they never
resolved it.  It happens on every file, sometimes right away, sometimes
after a while, but inevitably.
I have version 7, if it matters.
Some day I'll buy a new computer, and maybe it'll go away.
Tracy

At 10:13 AM 5/12/04 -0500, you wrote:
>Tracey,  what version of K1K are you using?  If K1K crashes you should 
>report the problem to Kurzweil with a repro scenario and a sample file.
>
>Guido
>
>
>Guido D. Corona
>IBM Accessibility Center,  Austin Tx.
>IBM Research,
>Phone:  (512) 838-9735
>Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
>Visit my weekly Accessibility WebLog at:
>http://www-3.ibm.com/able/weblog/corona_weblog.html
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>Tracy Carcione <carcione@xxxxxxxxx> 
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>The critical problem with that is that when I use K1K to edit, it always
>crashes, sooner or later.
>Tracy
>At 09:33 AM 5/12/04 -0500, you wrote:
>>I was forgetting the last step.  When you have finished inserting page 
>>breaks on the now RTF file.  Do a final save from K1K to TXT.  Your page 

>>breaks should be maintained.
>>
>>Guido
>>
>>
>>Guido D. Corona
>>IBM Accessibility Center,  Austin Tx.
>>IBM Research,
>>Phone:  (512) 838-9735
>>Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>Visit my weekly Accessibility WebLog at:
>>http://www-3.ibm.com/able/weblog/corona_weblog.html
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>>Tracy Carcione <carcione@xxxxxxxxx> 
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>>I have one of those .txt files to validate that has no regular page 
>>breaks.
>>I tried inserting them yesterday, but, when I open my file today, my 
>>breaks
>>are gone.  Is there any way to make the file keep my breaks? 
>>I wish we could convert these pesky txt files to RTF, but then Bookshare
>>won't take the upload.
>>Tracy
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>><br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I was forgetting the last step. 
>&nbsp;When
>>you have finished inserting page breaks on the now RTF file. &nbsp;Do a
>>final save from K1K to TXT. &nbsp;Your page breaks should be 
>maintained.</font>
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>>Guido D. Corona<br>
>>IBM Accessibility Center, &nbsp;Austin Tx.<br>
>>IBM Research,<br>
>>Phone: &nbsp;(512) 838-9735<br>
>>Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx<br>
>><br>
>>Visit my weekly Accessibility WebLog at:<br>
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>><br><font size=2><tt>I have one of those .txt files to validate that has
>>no regular page breaks.<br>
>>I tried inserting them yesterday, but, when I open my file today, my 
>breaks<br>
>>are gone. &nbsp;Is there any way to make the file keep my breaks? 
>&nbsp;<br>
>>I wish we could convert these pesky txt files to RTF, but then 
>Bookshare<br>
>>won't take the upload.<br>
>>Tracy<br>
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><br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Tracey, &nbsp;what version of K1K are
>you using? &nbsp;If K1K crashes you should report the problem to Kurzweil
>with a repro scenario and a sample file.</font>
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><br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Guido</font>
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><br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
>Guido D. Corona<br>
>IBM Accessibility Center, &nbsp;Austin Tx.<br>
>IBM Research,<br>
>Phone: &nbsp;(512) 838-9735<br>
>Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx<br>
><br>
>Visit my weekly Accessibility WebLog at:<br>
>http://www-3.ibm.com/able/weblog/corona_weblog.html<br>
><br>
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><td valign=top><font size=1 face="sans-serif">[bksvol-discuss] Re: page
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><br><font size=2><tt>The critical problem with that is that when I use
>K1K to edit, it always<br>
>crashes, sooner or later.<br>
>Tracy<br>
>At 09:33 AM 5/12/04 -0500, you wrote:<br>
>&gt;I was forgetting the last step. &nbsp;When you have finished 
inserting
>page <br>
>&gt;breaks on the now RTF file. &nbsp;Do a final save from K1K to TXT.
>&nbsp;Your page <br>
>&gt;breaks should be maintained.<br>
>&gt;<br>
>&gt;Guido<br>
>&gt;<br>
>&gt;<br>
>&gt;Guido D. Corona<br>
>&gt;IBM Accessibility Center, &nbsp;Austin Tx.<br>
>&gt;IBM Research,<br>
>&gt;Phone: &nbsp;(512) 838-9735<br>
>&gt;Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx<br>
>&gt;<br>
>&gt;Visit my weekly Accessibility WebLog at:<br>
>&gt;http://www-3.ibm.com/able/weblog/corona_weblog.html<br>
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>&gt;<br>
>&gt;<br>
>&gt;<br>
>&gt;<br>
>&gt;Tracy Carcione &lt;carcione@xxxxxxxxx&gt; <br>
>&gt;Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<br>
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>&gt;I have one of those .txt files to validate that has no regular page
><br>
>&gt;breaks.<br>
>&gt;I tried inserting them yesterday, but, when I open my file today, my
><br>
>&gt;breaks<br>
>&gt;are gone. &nbsp;Is there any way to make the file keep my breaks? 
<br>
>&gt;I wish we could convert these pesky txt files to RTF, but then
Bookshare<br>
>&gt;won't take the upload.<br>
>&gt;Tracy<br>
>&gt;<br>
>&gt;<br>
>&gt;<br>
>&gt;<br>
>&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;font size=2 face=&quot;sans-serif&quot;&gt;I was 
forgetting
>the last step. &amp;nbsp;When<br>
>&gt;you have finished inserting page breaks on the now RTF file. 
&amp;nbsp;Do
>a<br>
>&gt;final save from K1K to TXT. &amp;nbsp;Your page breaks should be
maintained.&lt;/font&gt;<br>
>&gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
>&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;font size=2
face=&quot;sans-serif&quot;&gt;Guido&lt;/font&gt;<br>
>&gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
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>&gt;Guido D. Corona&lt;br&gt;<br>
>&gt;IBM Accessibility Center, &amp;nbsp;Austin Tx.&lt;br&gt;<br>
>&gt;IBM Research,&lt;br&gt;<br>
>&gt;Phone: &amp;nbsp;(512) 838-9735&lt;br&gt;<br>
>&gt;Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx&lt;br&gt;<br>
>&gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
>&gt;Visit my weekly Accessibility WebLog at:&lt;br&gt;<br>
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>to validate that has<br>
>&gt;no regular page breaks.&lt;br&gt;<br>
>&gt;I tried inserting them yesterday, but, when I open my file today, my
>breaks&lt;br&gt;<br>
>&gt;are gone. &amp;nbsp;Is there any way to make the file keep my breaks?
>&amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;<br>
>&gt;I wish we could convert these pesky txt files to RTF, but then
Bookshare&lt;br&gt;<br>
>&gt;won't take the upload.&lt;br&gt;<br>
>&gt;Tracy&lt;br&gt;<br>
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