[bksvol-discuss] idea for keeping step 1 in some kind of shape

  • From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:27:53 -0500

I have attached a list of books of less than excellent quality from step 1. I realize that some books listed as less than excellent ought to have a higher rating for a variety of reasons. So think of the list as a tool.


Let's do our best to keep new books with a rating of less than excellent from lingering on step 1 by dealing with them as soon as they are submitted and either fixing them up or rejecting the truly poorly done submits.

Thank you to the people who are doing this with Savage Sky and a few other entries.

E.


At 07:49 PM 11/22/2007, you wrote:
I have Odd John and Sirius, an Last and First men and Starmaker.
I may Not get to them immediately since I have 2 books I'm finishing up. I'm working on Forgotten Men which needs its footnotes checked and properly set up and Power to the People which needs a Name check (475 names currently). My guess is that I could get to it in the middle of December. The books are old and have been very slightly water damaged. If they won't scan worth a damn I'll let you know tomorrow. Hope this helps.
.PS NLS did have two books on tape.

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From: <mailto:mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Evan Reese
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Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 7:38 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books found on other services

It would be an extraordinary, and unexpected, piece of good fortune if you did have these. Whatever you find out, please send word to:
<mailto:mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Whatever the results of your search, thank you very much for checking.

Evan


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From: <mailto:garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx>Gary Petraccaro
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Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 8:37 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books found on other services

I used to have them.  May still.  I'll check.
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From: <mailto:mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Evan Reese
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The two books were by Olaf Stapledon, a British science fiction writer who had a great influence on Arthur C. Clarke and Greg Bear among others. His most well-known works were published in the 1930's. He is one of the few authors whose name has become an adjective. Whenever a reviewer says that a work is "Stapledonian", many SF readers will immediately know that that means it is grand in scope and probably takes place in the far future and involves characters - posthumans - people very different from the ones around now. Some consider his writing to be rather dry, but few would disagree that it is extremely imaginative.

The one that is available from NLS is Star Maker and the other book was Odd John and Sirius - two separate novels, but published together in the edition RFB&D had recorded. They did a pretty good job with both of those recordings, too. It is sad to know that probably noone will hear them again. I wish I had thought to check on them and order the tapes before it was too late.

NLS also has Last and First Men and Last Men in London, two other books published in one volume. I wonder if those, and their version of Star Maker, will also be orphaned when they stop sending out cassettes.

Evan

----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx>Gary Petraccaro
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Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 9:17 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books found on other services

Which two?
Thanks.

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From: <mailto:mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Evan Reese
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Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 10:32 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books found on other services

There is also another issue: Whenever NLS changes its formats, many books
are left behind - never to be accessible again. This happened when they
stopped sending out records and it will happen again when they stop lending
cassettes. The same thing happened with RFB&D books on cassette. I picked up
a few that were on cassette that are not yet on CD, but I missed some too -
probably some that I haven't thought of yet. Just last Thursday, I was
saddened to discover that I couldn't find two books I like very much that
they recorded years ago on tape that are now no longer available because
they are not on CD. NLS has one of them on tape, but the other is not
accessible anywhere at this time. I hope to fix that early next year by
submitting it to Bookshare.

With Bookshare books, I would expect that whatever new file formats are
created and adopted, there will likely always be devices that can read brf
files and devices that will read old versions of Daisy files. Or even if
that is not the case, the rtf files that Bookshare has of all submitted
books can be reprocessed into any new format that comes along. In short, no
more orphaned books; or it is to be hoped, anyway.

Evan

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From: "Lori Castner" <<mailto:loralee.castner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>loralee.castner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 3:46 PM
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> Plus, on bookshare, yu can get the books immediately--no calling your
> regional library and waiting for the book to arrive.
>
> Cat Lover Lori
>
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>> Hi,
>> I favor having books on Bookshare even if they are duplicates. One
>> example
>> of why is that although a site like National Braille Press has them, they
>> are in grade two braille. That leaves out some people. NLS may only have
>> it
>> on tape. That leaves out some people. Bookshare offers books in both
>> DAISY
>> and brf formats. That includes everyone as far as I can tell. I wish we
>> would stop pointing people to other sites to be honest. Instead, I feel
>> we
>> should get those books and put them on Bookshare. I wish they would join
>> us
>> and help us. That would centralize everything.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
>> <mailto:james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
>>
>> "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change the
>> world.  Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
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>> Hi all,
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>> I was thinking about some of the requests for books that are found free
>> on
>> other services sites.  For example, Louisa May Alcot's books.  Mnay of
>> hers
>>
>> are free on Project Gutenberg.
>>
>> We already have links on Bookshare that simply point to other services
>> sites
>> for books.  Why can't we do something similar in this case?  We have
>> links
>> that point to N BP for some books found exclusively over there.
>>
>> Just a brain storm.
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