[bksvol-discuss] Re: finding soft page breaks
- From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:59:02 -0800
Hi Lissi,
The soft page breaks confuse me too. That's why I increase my paper size to
get rid of all of them in any book as soon as I encounter one. I have
enough trouble adding the number of preliminary pages to the page number in
the text and getting it right that I don't need anything else confusing me!
So, I totally get where you're coming from, Lissi.
Mayrie
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Estelnalissi
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 4:53 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: finding soft page breaks
Dear Jamie, Mayrie and Booksharian Friends,
I wonder if what happens when I encounter page breaks is the same as with
other computer programs as with my Microsoft word 2003. Soft page breaks add
to the count jaws gives me for the book. I would ignore them, but they make
it difficult for me to make sure I have the correct number of relevant
pages.
For example, if I have 3 preliminary pages and and have completed page 4 of
a book, JAWS says page 8 after the page brake at the bottom of page 4. If,
though the copyright page was particularly long and contains a soft page
break, I'll hear page 9 read as I cross the page break at the bottom of page
4.
Therefore, if it works, I lengthen pages to eliminate soft breaks, or
eliminate blank lines and make the font smaller to get rid of them, thereby
achieving consistant page numbering, which reassures me I haven't missed any
real page breaks if that makes sense.
In a very long book i'm working on the soft breaks make it sound as if I
have 400 extra pages, and hearing a page added alerts me to the fact that
the previous page contained a soft break.
So, soft breaks may not confuse Bookshare paging, but they confuse JAWS and
me.
And, although I know Jamie is right that soft breaks are a series of broken
line, maybe like dashes, that line is so thin and pale on my computer that I
don't visually see it, but realize its there because of that added number in
the total count given after each page break.
Always with love,
Lissi
----- Original Message -----
From: Mayrie <mailto:mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> ReNae
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 6:35 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: finding soft page breaks
Hi Jamie!
Thanks for telling me what you see when you pass hard and soft page breaks.
I always like to know how things work for all of us. I didn't know that
when our screen readers say the words "page break" that you're actually
seeing those words. Neat!
Mayrie
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From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamie Yates, CPhT
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:10 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: finding soft page breaks
I meant in, um, print? I didn't mean "say Page break" as in speak page
break. I meant if you look at the screen, the hard page breaks say Page
Break right on the line that goes across the screen. The soft page breaks
are just dotted lines with no words on the line.
Does that make sense? I don't have a screen reader or anything so I don't
know how those work or what they say when they come to soft or hard page
breaks. Cindy is sighted and was the original asker about the soft page
breaks. I didn't think about anyone else wanting to know, sorry.
--
Jamie in Michigan
Currently Reading: Years of Wonder: A Novel of the Plague by Geraldine
Brooks
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