[bksvol-discuss] Re: finding paragraph symbol if you're blind

  • From: Angel Murphy <angel.murphy83@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 08:47:47 -0400

I don't understand. What keystrokes is what u said? Can u explain Cindy?

Angel Murphy
Sent from my iPod

On Mar 17, 2013, at 5:37 AM, Cindy Rosenthal <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I did some more searching and found this: ASCII code 244 = ¶ (
> Paragraph sign or pilcrow ; end paragraph mark )
> 
> Does that work? Angel?
> 
> 
> 
>>>> Sorry. I googled paragraph and blind and found a page that gives
>>>> computer Braille codes but I'm in a hurry because I have to go out and
>>>> so far and haven't found the code for the paragraph symbol, though
>>>> lots of others are on the page. If you haven't found it  I'll look
>>>> some more when I get back in a coupe of hours.
>>>> CIndy
>>>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 4:48 AM, Angel Murphy <angel.murphy83@xxxxxxxxx> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Ok thanks. But Cindy there's one thing that I saw as u were writing this 
>>>>> out. I saw that u were writing the steps out of how I would find my 
>>>>> paragraphs faster. U were writing them out as if I were sighted. And I am 
>>>>> not. I'm totally blind. Can anyone that is blind explain to me of how to 
>>>>> find my paragraphs faster, so that way I can fix the breaks of how they 
>>>>> should b fixed? Thanks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Angel Murphy
>>>>> Sent from my iPod
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 16, 2013, at 5:12 AM, Cindy Rosenthal <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Open the edit menu. click on Find or replace;  either one opens a box;
>>>>>> at the top is a space next to words Find what. put your cursor there;
>>>>>> at the bottom of  at the bottom of the Find and replace box, on the
>>>>>> right-hand side, you'll find a small rectangle with the word special
>>>>>> and small arrows. click on the up arrow and at the top you'll find the
>>>>>> words paragraph mark.  click on that an then you can find all the
>>>>>> paragraph symbols. you'll want to put a space in the replace box.
>>>>>> you're safest to replace each one at a time. after you've done this
>>>>>> for a while, you can, very carefully highlight a section, i.e.,
>>>>>> several lines and do a replace all; but you have to be very careful
>>>>>> not to include the paragraph symbol that's at the end of the
>>>>>> paragraph. I really recommend, if you're reading what you're proofing
>>>>>> sentence by sentence, that you delete the end-of-line paragraph
>>>>>> symbols as you go along, but if you're feeling up to it,  and want to
>>>>>> try the global replace method, go ahead. Just be very careful or
>>>>>> you'll end up with a page-long, document-long single paragraph.
>>>>>> Although Ii know how to do it  and have done it successfully,  I don't
>>>>>> do it when I'm proofreading, i.e., reading the file anyway. I delete
>>>>>> them line by line.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:31 PM, Angel Murphy 
>>>>>> <angel.murphy83@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>> Ok Cindy thanks for the help. But now I'm wondering one thing though. 
>>>>>>> Is there a faster way to find my paragraphs in MS Word 2007? Pleast me 
>>>>>>> know.
>>>>>> o to
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Angel Murphy
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPod
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 16, 2013, at 2:20 AM, Cindy Rosenthal <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Cindy Rosenthal 
>>>>>>>> <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I agree with you Nimit, and I do that, too--even after all these
>>>>>>>>> years. It definitely is safer than the global replace which I did once
>>>>>>>>> or twice--very carefully-- for a book that had been returned to the
>>>>>>>>> download list that I really didn't want to read. If we're proofing by
>>>>>>>>> reading, deleting the paragraph symbols as we go along doesn't take
>>>>>>>>> that much more time; and if we forget to replace with a space
>>>>>>>>> occasionally the final spell-check will catch the two words joined
>>>>>>>>> that shouldn't be.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The paragraph symbol is  an open backwards p (I tried to copy from one
>>>>>>>> of my files and paste here but it didn't work.   It should be at the
>>>>>>>> end of a paragraph but some are mistakenly put at the ends of lines
>>>>>>>> when the next thing is a line and not a new paragraph
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Wait. I googled and found this one that I copied ¶   except,  that
>>>>>>>> what is black in this example is usuall open and there is space, not
>>>>>>>> closed black
>>>>>>>> I also found that it's called a  pilcrow. (that might come in useful
>>>>>>>> should I ever need to know it for a crossword puzzle; grin
>>>>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Nimit Kaur <kaur.nimit@xxxxxxxxx> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi sue,  I totally agree with you.  The replace will take out hyphen
>>>>>>>>>> from compound words.  But, I do most of the proofing manually since I
>>>>>>>>>> feel it's most accurate.  I am taking the paragraphs breaks out
>>>>>>>>>> manually once I get the book.  I think that takes a little time, but
>>>>>>>>>> thanks to bookshare volunteer staff to give us options to renew, or I
>>>>>>>>>> would be out of my credits.  I don't always get enough time to do 
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> work, because of school and stuff.  I am a busy person.  Well, sorry
>>>>>>>>>> to get out of topic a little, but all I wanted to say that doing
>>>>>>>>>> things manually might be a little too much, but it's more accurate.
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!  Have a good day.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 3/15/13, Sue Stevens <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Nimit,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> That is how I do it. I am reading through the book anyway, so I 
>>>>>>>>>>> just connect
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> those words as I come to them. Word sometimes like to pull a funny 
>>>>>>>>>>> on you
>>>>>>>>>>> when you do a global find and replace. One thing it can do is take 
>>>>>>>>>>> out all
>>>>>>>>>>> the hyphens, including those that are meant to be hyphenated as 
>>>>>>>>>>> compound
>>>>>>>>>>> words.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sue S.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Nimit Kaur
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 3:12 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help with steps, and sending 
>>>>>>>>>>> instructions
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Angel!  OH.....  I think all that step is saying that if you 
>>>>>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>>>> book where on the last page a word has a hyphen and it finishes on 
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> next page. You connect that word.  I'll give you an example if I
>>>>>>>>>>> confused you.  Well, let's say if you have a word, brilliant.  The
>>>>>>>>>>> scanner has it like that:
>>>>>>>>>>> Bril (hyphen) or dash
>>>>>>>>>>> Page number (12)
>>>>>>>>>>> Liant )the word continued.)
>>>>>>>>>>> So, now what you have to do is reconnect that word brillliant all
>>>>>>>>>>> together.  There is a way to do it by replace all, but I haven't 
>>>>>>>>>>> done
>>>>>>>>>>> it and I just do it manually.  Is that right, everyone?  If I am
>>>>>>>>>>> wrong, please come to explain.  Thanks and have a good day.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/15/13, Angel Murphy <angel.murphy83@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> No they haven't yet. Step 11 says, reconnect words across page 
>>>>>>>>>>>> breaks
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have to do a hyphen carete and a lowercase letter p. And then it 
>>>>>>>>>>>> says
>>>>>>>>>>>> correct each instance you find.
>>>>>>>>>>>> What do I need to do after that?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Angel Murphy
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPod
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 15, 2013, at 3:38 PM, "Martha Rafter" <mlhr@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Angel,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry I've been away from my desk for the day.  Did someone 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with combining words over 2 pages?  If not, let me know!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Angel Murphy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:12 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help with steps, and sending 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes I am referring to the proofing file. And I think it was from 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mardy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Angel Murphy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPod
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 14, 2013, at 9:25 PM, "Dornetta" <dornetta@xxxxxxxxx> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Angel;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you referring to the proofing file that was sent to you? And 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if so,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which file are you using--the one from me or the one from Marty, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Netta
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Just because you are blind does not mean you lack vision"-Stevie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wonder
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>>>>>>>>>>> “JUST BECAUSE A MAN LACKS THE USE OF HIS EYES DOESN’T MEAN HE LACKS
>>>>>>>>>>> VISION!!" By STEVIE WONDER
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>>>>>>>>>>> "Just BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE DOESN't MEAN YOU CAN'T HEAR AND THINK!!"
>>>>>>>>>>> By STEVIE WONDER
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>>>>>>>>>> “JUST BECAUSE A MAN LACKS THE USE OF HIS EYES DOESN’T MEAN HE LACKS
>>>>>>>>>> VISION!!" By STEVIE WONDER
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>>>>>>>>>> "Just BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE DOESN't MEAN YOU CAN'T HEAR AND THINK!!"
>>>>>>>>>> By STEVIE WONDER
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>>>>>>>>>> NIMIT KAUR
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