[bksvol-discuss] Re: finding paragraph symbol if you're blind
- From: Cindy Rosenthal <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 15:16:46 -0700
hmmm. I think I understood what I found to say hittng 244 would give
you the paragraph symbol--but I think someone else already answered
you better. at least I hope so. smile
Cindy
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 5:47 AM, Angel Murphy <angel.murphy83@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I don't understand. What keystrokes is what u said? Can u explain Cindy?
>
> Angel Murphy
> Sent from my iPod
>
> On Mar 17, 2013, at 5:37 AM, Cindy Rosenthal <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> I did some more searching and found this: ASCII code 244 = ¶ (
>> Paragraph sign or pilcrow ; end paragraph mark )
>>
>> Does that work? Angel?
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> Sorry. I googled paragraph and blind and found a page that gives
>>>>> computer Braille codes but I'm in a hurry because I have to go out and
>>>>> so far and haven't found the code for the paragraph symbol, though
>>>>> lots of others are on the page. If you haven't found it I'll look
>>>>> some more when I get back in a coupe of hours.
>>>>> CIndy
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 4:48 AM, Angel Murphy <angel.murphy83@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Ok thanks. But Cindy there's one thing that I saw as u were writing this
>>>>>> out. I saw that u were writing the steps out of how I would find my
>>>>>> paragraphs faster. U were writing them out as if I were sighted. And I
>>>>>> am not. I'm totally blind. Can anyone that is blind explain to me of how
>>>>>> to find my paragraphs faster, so that way I can fix the breaks of how
>>>>>> they should b fixed? Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Angel Murphy
>>>>>> Sent from my iPod
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 16, 2013, at 5:12 AM, Cindy Rosenthal <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Open the edit menu. click on Find or replace; either one opens a box;
>>>>>>> at the top is a space next to words Find what. put your cursor there;
>>>>>>> at the bottom of at the bottom of the Find and replace box, on the
>>>>>>> right-hand side, you'll find a small rectangle with the word special
>>>>>>> and small arrows. click on the up arrow and at the top you'll find the
>>>>>>> words paragraph mark. click on that an then you can find all the
>>>>>>> paragraph symbols. you'll want to put a space in the replace box.
>>>>>>> you're safest to replace each one at a time. after you've done this
>>>>>>> for a while, you can, very carefully highlight a section, i.e.,
>>>>>>> several lines and do a replace all; but you have to be very careful
>>>>>>> not to include the paragraph symbol that's at the end of the
>>>>>>> paragraph. I really recommend, if you're reading what you're proofing
>>>>>>> sentence by sentence, that you delete the end-of-line paragraph
>>>>>>> symbols as you go along, but if you're feeling up to it, and want to
>>>>>>> try the global replace method, go ahead. Just be very careful or
>>>>>>> you'll end up with a page-long, document-long single paragraph.
>>>>>>> Although Ii know how to do it and have done it successfully, I don't
>>>>>>> do it when I'm proofreading, i.e., reading the file anyway. I delete
>>>>>>> them line by line.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:31 PM, Angel Murphy
>>>>>>> <angel.murphy83@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ok Cindy thanks for the help. But now I'm wondering one thing though.
>>>>>>>> Is there a faster way to find my paragraphs in MS Word 2007? Pleast me
>>>>>>>> know.
>>>>>>> o to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Angel Murphy
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPod
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 16, 2013, at 2:20 AM, Cindy Rosenthal <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Cindy Rosenthal
>>>>>>>>> <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I agree with you Nimit, and I do that, too--even after all these
>>>>>>>>>> years. It definitely is safer than the global replace which I did
>>>>>>>>>> once
>>>>>>>>>> or twice--very carefully-- for a book that had been returned to the
>>>>>>>>>> download list that I really didn't want to read. If we're proofing by
>>>>>>>>>> reading, deleting the paragraph symbols as we go along doesn't take
>>>>>>>>>> that much more time; and if we forget to replace with a space
>>>>>>>>>> occasionally the final spell-check will catch the two words joined
>>>>>>>>>> that shouldn't be.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The paragraph symbol is an open backwards p (I tried to copy from one
>>>>>>>>> of my files and paste here but it didn't work. It should be at the
>>>>>>>>> end of a paragraph but some are mistakenly put at the ends of lines
>>>>>>>>> when the next thing is a line and not a new paragraph
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wait. I googled and found this one that I copied ¶ except, that
>>>>>>>>> what is black in this example is usuall open and there is space, not
>>>>>>>>> closed black
>>>>>>>>> I also found that it's called a pilcrow. (that might come in useful
>>>>>>>>> should I ever need to know it for a crossword puzzle; grin
>>>>>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Nimit Kaur <kaur.nimit@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi sue, I totally agree with you. The replace will take out hyphen
>>>>>>>>>>> from compound words. But, I do most of the proofing manually since
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> feel it's most accurate. I am taking the paragraphs breaks out
>>>>>>>>>>> manually once I get the book. I think that takes a little time, but
>>>>>>>>>>> thanks to bookshare volunteer staff to give us options to renew, or
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> would be out of my credits. I don't always get enough time to do
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> work, because of school and stuff. I am a busy person. Well, sorry
>>>>>>>>>>> to get out of topic a little, but all I wanted to say that doing
>>>>>>>>>>> things manually might be a little too much, but it's more accurate.
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! Have a good day.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/15/13, Sue Stevens <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Nimit,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That is how I do it. I am reading through the book anyway, so I
>>>>>>>>>>>> just connect
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> those words as I come to them. Word sometimes like to pull a funny
>>>>>>>>>>>> on you
>>>>>>>>>>>> when you do a global find and replace. One thing it can do is take
>>>>>>>>>>>> out all
>>>>>>>>>>>> the hyphens, including those that are meant to be hyphenated as
>>>>>>>>>>>> compound
>>>>>>>>>>>> words.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sue S.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Nimit Kaur
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 3:12 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help with steps, and sending
>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Angel! OH..... I think all that step is saying that if you
>>>>>>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>>>>> book where on the last page a word has a hyphen and it finishes on
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> next page. You connect that word. I'll give you an example if I
>>>>>>>>>>>> confused you. Well, let's say if you have a word, brilliant. The
>>>>>>>>>>>> scanner has it like that:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bril (hyphen) or dash
>>>>>>>>>>>> Page number (12)
>>>>>>>>>>>> Liant )the word continued.)
>>>>>>>>>>>> So, now what you have to do is reconnect that word brillliant all
>>>>>>>>>>>> together. There is a way to do it by replace all, but I haven't
>>>>>>>>>>>> done
>>>>>>>>>>>> it and I just do it manually. Is that right, everyone? If I am
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong, please come to explain. Thanks and have a good day.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/15/13, Angel Murphy <angel.murphy83@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No they haven't yet. Step 11 says, reconnect words across page
>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaks
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have to do a hyphen carete and a lowercase letter p. And then
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it says
>>>>>>>>>>>>> correct each instance you find.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do I need to do after that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Angel Murphy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPod
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 15, 2013, at 3:38 PM, "Martha Rafter" <mlhr@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Angel,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry I've been away from my desk for the day. Did someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with combining words over 2 pages? If not, let me know!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Angel Murphy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:12 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help with steps, and sending
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes I am referring to the proofing file. And I think it was from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mardy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Angel Murphy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPod
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 14, 2013, at 9:25 PM, "Dornetta" <dornetta@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Angel;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you referring to the proofing file that was sent to you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And if so,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which file are you using--the one from me or the one from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marty, maybe,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Netta
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Just because you are blind does not mean you lack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vision"-Stevie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wonder
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>>>>>>>>>>>> “JUST BECAUSE A MAN LACKS THE USE OF HIS EYES DOESN’T MEAN HE LACKS
>>>>>>>>>>>> VISION!!" By STEVIE WONDER
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Just BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE DOESN't MEAN YOU CAN'T HEAR AND
>>>>>>>>>>>> THINK!!"
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>>>>>>>>>>> VISION!!" By STEVIE WONDER
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Just BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE DOESN't MEAN YOU CAN'T HEAR AND THINK!!"
>>>>>>>>>>> By STEVIE WONDER
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