[bksvol-discuss] Re: finding paragraph symbol if you're blind
- From: Angel Murphy <angel.murphy83@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 19:15:36 -0400
No Cindy. I must tell u this Cindy. I use my computer for proof reading. An not
a Braille display.
Angel Murphy
Sent from my iPod
On Mar 17, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Cindy Rosenthal <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> hmmm. I think I understood what I found to say hittng 244 would give
> you the paragraph symbol--but I think someone else already answered
> you better. at least I hope so. smile
> Cindy
>
> On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 5:47 AM, Angel Murphy <angel.murphy83@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>> I don't understand. What keystrokes is what u said? Can u explain Cindy?
>>
>> Angel Murphy
>> Sent from my iPod
>>
>> On Mar 17, 2013, at 5:37 AM, Cindy Rosenthal <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> I did some more searching and found this: ASCII code 244 = ¶ (
>>> Paragraph sign or pilcrow ; end paragraph mark )
>>>
>>> Does that work? Angel?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> Sorry. I googled paragraph and blind and found a page that gives
>>>>>> computer Braille codes but I'm in a hurry because I have to go out and
>>>>>> so far and haven't found the code for the paragraph symbol, though
>>>>>> lots of others are on the page. If you haven't found it I'll look
>>>>>> some more when I get back in a coupe of hours.
>>>>>> CIndy
>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 4:48 AM, Angel Murphy <angel.murphy83@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Ok thanks. But Cindy there's one thing that I saw as u were writing
>>>>>>> this out. I saw that u were writing the steps out of how I would find
>>>>>>> my paragraphs faster. U were writing them out as if I were sighted. And
>>>>>>> I am not. I'm totally blind. Can anyone that is blind explain to me of
>>>>>>> how to find my paragraphs faster, so that way I can fix the breaks of
>>>>>>> how they should b fixed? Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Angel Murphy
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPod
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 16, 2013, at 5:12 AM, Cindy Rosenthal <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Open the edit menu. click on Find or replace; either one opens a box;
>>>>>>>> at the top is a space next to words Find what. put your cursor there;
>>>>>>>> at the bottom of at the bottom of the Find and replace box, on the
>>>>>>>> right-hand side, you'll find a small rectangle with the word special
>>>>>>>> and small arrows. click on the up arrow and at the top you'll find the
>>>>>>>> words paragraph mark. click on that an then you can find all the
>>>>>>>> paragraph symbols. you'll want to put a space in the replace box.
>>>>>>>> you're safest to replace each one at a time. after you've done this
>>>>>>>> for a while, you can, very carefully highlight a section, i.e.,
>>>>>>>> several lines and do a replace all; but you have to be very careful
>>>>>>>> not to include the paragraph symbol that's at the end of the
>>>>>>>> paragraph. I really recommend, if you're reading what you're proofing
>>>>>>>> sentence by sentence, that you delete the end-of-line paragraph
>>>>>>>> symbols as you go along, but if you're feeling up to it, and want to
>>>>>>>> try the global replace method, go ahead. Just be very careful or
>>>>>>>> you'll end up with a page-long, document-long single paragraph.
>>>>>>>> Although Ii know how to do it and have done it successfully, I don't
>>>>>>>> do it when I'm proofreading, i.e., reading the file anyway. I delete
>>>>>>>> them line by line.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:31 PM, Angel Murphy
>>>>>>>> <angel.murphy83@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Ok Cindy thanks for the help. But now I'm wondering one thing though.
>>>>>>>>> Is there a faster way to find my paragraphs in MS Word 2007? Pleast
>>>>>>>>> me know.
>>>>>>>> o to
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Angel Murphy
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPod
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 16, 2013, at 2:20 AM, Cindy Rosenthal <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Cindy Rosenthal
>>>>>>>>>> <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I agree with you Nimit, and I do that, too--even after all these
>>>>>>>>>>> years. It definitely is safer than the global replace which I did
>>>>>>>>>>> once
>>>>>>>>>>> or twice--very carefully-- for a book that had been returned to the
>>>>>>>>>>> download list that I really didn't want to read. If we're proofing
>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>> reading, deleting the paragraph symbols as we go along doesn't take
>>>>>>>>>>> that much more time; and if we forget to replace with a space
>>>>>>>>>>> occasionally the final spell-check will catch the two words joined
>>>>>>>>>>> that shouldn't be.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The paragraph symbol is an open backwards p (I tried to copy from
>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>> of my files and paste here but it didn't work. It should be at the
>>>>>>>>>> end of a paragraph but some are mistakenly put at the ends of lines
>>>>>>>>>> when the next thing is a line and not a new paragraph
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wait. I googled and found this one that I copied ¶ except, that
>>>>>>>>>> what is black in this example is usuall open and there is space, not
>>>>>>>>>> closed black
>>>>>>>>>> I also found that it's called a pilcrow. (that might come in useful
>>>>>>>>>> should I ever need to know it for a crossword puzzle; grin
>>>>>>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Nimit Kaur <kaur.nimit@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi sue, I totally agree with you. The replace will take out
>>>>>>>>>>>> hyphen
>>>>>>>>>>>> from compound words. But, I do most of the proofing manually
>>>>>>>>>>>> since I
>>>>>>>>>>>> feel it's most accurate. I am taking the paragraphs breaks out
>>>>>>>>>>>> manually once I get the book. I think that takes a little time,
>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks to bookshare volunteer staff to give us options to renew,
>>>>>>>>>>>> or I
>>>>>>>>>>>> would be out of my credits. I don't always get enough time to do
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> work, because of school and stuff. I am a busy person. Well,
>>>>>>>>>>>> sorry
>>>>>>>>>>>> to get out of topic a little, but all I wanted to say that doing
>>>>>>>>>>>> things manually might be a little too much, but it's more accurate.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! Have a good day.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/15/13, Sue Stevens <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Nimit,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is how I do it. I am reading through the book anyway, so I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just connect
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> those words as I come to them. Word sometimes like to pull a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> funny on you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> when you do a global find and replace. One thing it can do is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> take out all
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the hyphens, including those that are meant to be hyphenated as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> compound
>>>>>>>>>>>>> words.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sue S.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Nimit Kaur
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 3:12 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help with steps, and sending
>>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Angel! OH..... I think all that step is saying that if you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> book where on the last page a word has a hyphen and it finishes
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> next page. You connect that word. I'll give you an example if I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> confused you. Well, let's say if you have a word, brilliant. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>> scanner has it like that:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bril (hyphen) or dash
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Page number (12)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Liant )the word continued.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, now what you have to do is reconnect that word brillliant all
>>>>>>>>>>>>> together. There is a way to do it by replace all, but I haven't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> done
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it and I just do it manually. Is that right, everyone? If I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong, please come to explain. Thanks and have a good day.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/15/13, Angel Murphy <angel.murphy83@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No they haven't yet. Step 11 says, reconnect words across page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have to do a hyphen carete and a lowercase letter p. And then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it says
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correct each instance you find.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do I need to do after that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Angel Murphy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPod
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 15, 2013, at 3:38 PM, "Martha Rafter" <mlhr@xxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Angel,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry I've been away from my desk for the day. Did someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with combining words over 2 pages? If not, let me know!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Angel Murphy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:12 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help with steps, and sending
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes I am referring to the proofing file. And I think it was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from mardy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Angel Murphy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPod
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 14, 2013, at 9:25 PM, "Dornetta" <dornetta@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Angel;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you referring to the proofing file that was sent to you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And if so,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which file are you using--the one from me or the one from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marty, maybe,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Netta
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Just because you are blind does not mean you lack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vision"-Stevie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wonder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> “JUST BECAUSE A MAN LACKS THE USE OF HIS EYES DOESN’T MEAN HE
>>>>>>>>>>>>> LACKS
>>>>>>>>>>>>> VISION!!" By STEVIE WONDER
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Just BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE DOESN't MEAN YOU CAN'T HEAR AND
>>>>>>>>>>>>> THINK!!"
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>>>>>>>>>>>> “JUST BECAUSE A MAN LACKS THE USE OF HIS EYES DOESN’T MEAN HE LACKS
>>>>>>>>>>>> VISION!!" By STEVIE WONDER
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Just BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE DOESN't MEAN YOU CAN'T HEAR AND
>>>>>>>>>>>> THINK!!"
>>>>>>>>>>>> By STEVIE WONDER
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>>>>>>>>>>>> NIMIT KAUR
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