[bksvol-discuss] Re: Tony's message
- From: "Evan Reese" <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 16:25:07 -0700
Thanks, Bob. You said this better than I probably would have, so I will
simply second your words. I will only add that I have been on many lists,
including Usenet Newsgroups, since the early 90's, and none of the lists
with primarily blind participants was as bad as some of those with sighted
ones. The Bookshare lists consist of a pretty convivial bunch overall. I
also agree with your view that individuals should take up any issues with
the person or persons they may have a problem with rather than broadbrushing
the list in general.
Finally, I have been around here a bit longer than you have, so I have a bit
more historical perspective; and I can say that if anyone needs to improve
communications skills and how he presents himself, it is Tony.
Evan
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 12:56 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Tony's message
What is this, bash the list Saturday?
Mathe, I'm sorry you have encountered a problem with the list, and, since
you addressed your complaints to the list I assume you are lumping all of us
in your criticism. If not, then there are off list emails that might help
you work out your problems with specific members. In other words, if you
have a problem with anything I have said, email me and we can discuss it,
otherwise, leave me off your list bashing.
Since I've joined this list about a month ago, I have found that most
members are respectful, and though some of us express frustrations at times,
most people here seem to be quite professional concerning their work.
I am currently a member of three lists, and have been a member of about
ten lists during my lengthy experiences with a computer, and can state quite
frankly that this list is more professional than most.
Anyway, if you have a problem with anything that I may have said to you
(and frankly I don't remember saying anything to you at all), please email
me and we can discuss it. My email is rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Otherwise, I
refuse to be sucked into guilt by association.
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: maithe007
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 2:23 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Tony's message
Dear Bookshare list,
I understand where he is coming from. I think the point he was trying
to make was that he has gone out of his way to share and contribute to this
group and it has not been appreciated.
From my point of view, I do have to agree with some of the comments he
has made. I decided to continue scanning books for Bookshare; however, I
will no longer engage in the discussions. I met several individuals who are
just wonderful, but on the other hand, there are many who need to understand
that being rude, disrespectful, and obnoxious is just not acceptable. I
will not start pointing fingers, but I will say that I am a member of over
150 groups and this is the only group that I have encountered such
behaviors. It is very disheartening to know that any comment you make or
question posed is up for ridicule.
I understand that comments might be misconstrued at times via the
written word, but it seems that it is the same individuals constantly making
these negative remarks. We are adults and as such, we need to treat one
another with respect.
I am a therapist and I can honestly say that many in this group need to
improve their communication skills. I have found myself feeling attacked,
ridiculed, and disregarded on many occasions. I generally let things go,
but I do not see these individuals trying to curb these negative behaviors
even when it is pointed-out to them. I know several people who now refuse
to interact for the same reasons I have stated and this community will
continue losing volunteers if such behaviors continue.
As I previously stated, I have met many wonderful individuals here and I
thank them for their assistance and encouragement. For those of you that
just do not care what others think or feel, please know that you are
creating disharmony in a community that should be united.
Sincerely,
Maithe Ortiz
maithe007@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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