[bksvol-discuss] Re: Should I keep editing this?

  • From: Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 19:45:54 -0500

As far as I can tell from reading the PQ books myself they are better than the volunteer produced books in general. You sure don't run into scannos. They do tend to lack navigation points though, Is that what you mean by not being as good as volunteer produced books?


On 1/16/2012 5:10 PM, Cindy wrote:
Roger, I like your analogy.
Also, unless they have improved, I seem to remember that often the PQ books were not as Excellent as those provided by careful scanners and proofers.
Cindy

    *From:* Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
    *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    *Sent:* Monday, January 16, 2012 8:46 AM
    *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: Should I keep editing this?

    As a matter of fact, pretty much any book that is published
    anymore is in digital format before it is in print format. Those
    are the files that are transmitted to the printing press. In the
    1990s I was acquainted with a person who was involved with
    converting all the backlist of Pathfinder Press to digital format
    for that purpose, but Pathfinder Press is not a commercial
    publisher. It is a small press that publishes political books to
    promote the political cause it is affiliated with. These
    commercial publishers did not necessarily convert all their
    backlist and do not necessarily intend to do so. It would be nice
    if the publishers which have a contract with Bookshare would
    provide a date at which they started making everything in
    electronic format, but I would not count on their doing that.
    Bookshare is not their highest priority in the first place. It
    would be well to remember that if a book is older than the date at
    which the publisher started digitizing their stock even if it is
    published by one of the so-called unsafe publishers it might very
    well never be provided to Bookshare in electronic format and it
    would be a good idea to scan it anyway. I am prone to scan older
    books and small press books anyway, so I don't think any of my own
    scans have been replaced by publisher quality books, but I am
    inclined to think that if I do come across a book that is not in
    the collection and is on an unsafe publisher list I might just go
    ahead and scan it anyway. If it does get replaced then there are
    some reasons to work on it anyway. For one thing, I will have had
    the privilege of reading it before it became other wise available.
    For another thing, I will have provided it for Bookshare users
    earlier than they would have had it otherwise. As someone else put
    it when so many volunteers were complaining that their work had
    been for nothing when their contributions were being replaced with
    publisher quality books, if you were volunteering for a homeless
    shelter would you complain that your work had been for nothing if
    the residents of the shelter had all gotten homes? The point is
    that you had helped them during the time that had passed before
    they got homes. Similarly, if you submit a book to Bookshare and
    put in a lot of work to do that then you help Bookshare patrons up
    until the time that they are replaced. If you really want your
    work to last, though, then work on the safe publishers list or
    work on old books.

    On 1/16/2012 7:53 AM, Kelly Pierce wrote:
    > I have noticed that older titles from 20 to 30 years ago or more
    > rarely are available in electronic form for Bookshare to convert,
    > unless the title was extremely popular or had consistently good
    sales.
    >  These older titles will likely only become accessible to people
    with
    > disabilities by scanning even if Bookshare has a relationship
    with the
    > publisher.
    >
    > Kelly
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > On 1/15/12, Roger Loran Bailey<rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx
    <mailto:rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>>  wrote:
    >> I am pretty sure that Penguin is on the safe list. Hey Alisa, I
    think it
    >> might be about time to forward us the latest version of that
    safe and
    >> unsafe list along with the next wish and books being scanned lists.
    >>
    >> On 1/15/2012 5:24 PM, Van Lant Family wrote:
    >>>    HI all,
    >>> I have been slowly cleaning up a book I scanned for myself last
    >>> summer. There's a fair amount of formatting issues and lines that
    >>> didn't scan cleanly that I'll have to work on, so it's a slow
    >>> process.. It isn't in the collection already, but I just
    noticed that
    >>> it's published by a subsidiary or  partner of Penguin.  I'm
    thinking
    >>> Penguin is on our  PQ list, so I'm wondering if it's worth
    >>> proceeding.  Two other books I scanned in the last year got
    rejected
    >>> because a  PQ edition beat them into the  collection.  Of
    course, a PQ
    >>> version of this book would be way better than all the work,
    but it was
    >>> such a funny book that I wanted others to be able to have
    access to
    >>> this.  The book is called "MILK MEMOS
    >>> HOW REAL MOMS LEARNED TO MIX BUSINESS WITH BABIES AND HOW YOU
    CAN, TOO".
    >>>
    >>> Just wondering how  the rest of you decide whether a book you
    wanted
    >>> for yourself anyway is  worth it when the publisher might add a PQ
    >>> version.
    >>>
    >>> Robin
    >>>
    >>>
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