[bksvol-discuss] Re: Should I keep editing this?
- From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 19:28:05 -0800 (PST)
That, and perhaps formatting. I don't know; I just remember that several years
ago there were complaints about some of them, but perhaps their quality has
improved.
Cindy
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> From: Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 4:45 PM
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Should I keep editing this?
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>As far as I can tell from reading the PQ books myself they are better than the
>volunteer produced books in general. You sure don't run into scannos. They do
>tend to lack navigation points though, Is that what you mean by not being as
>good as volunteer produced books?
>
>On 1/16/2012 5:10 PM, Cindy wrote:
>Roger, I like your analogy.
>>Also, unless they have improved, I seem to remember that often the PQ books
>>were not as Excellent as those provided by careful scanners and proofers.
>>Cindy
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>>From: Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
>>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 8:46 AM
>>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Should I keep editing this?
>>>
>>>As a matter of fact, pretty much any book that is
published anymore is in digital format before it is in
print format. Those are the files that are transmitted
to the printing press. In the 1990s I was acquainted
with a person who was involved with converting all the
backlist of Pathfinder Press to digital format for that
purpose, but Pathfinder Press is not a commercial
publisher. It is a small press that publishes political
books to promote the political cause it is affiliated
with. These commercial publishers did not necessarily
convert all their backlist and do not necessarily intend
to do so. It would be nice if the publishers which have
a contract with Bookshare would provide a date at which
they started making everything in electronic format, but
I would not count on their doing that. Bookshare is not
their highest priority in the first place. It would be
well to remember that if a book is older than the date
at which the publisher started digitizing their stock
even if it is published by one of the so-called unsafe
publishers it might very well never be provided to
Bookshare in electronic format and it would be a good
idea to scan it anyway. I am prone to scan older books
and small press books anyway, so I don't think any of my
own scans have been replaced by publisher quality books,
but I am inclined to think that if I do come across a
book that is not in the collection and is on an unsafe
publisher list I might just go ahead and scan it anyway.
If it does get replaced then there are some reasons to
work on it anyway. For one thing, I will have had the
privilege of reading it before it became other wise
available. For another thing, I will have provided it
for Bookshare users earlier than they would have had it
otherwise. As someone else put it when so many
volunteers were complaining that their work had been for
nothing when their contributions were being replaced
with publisher quality books, if you were volunteering
for a homeless shelter would you complain that your work
had been for nothing if the residents of the shelter had
all gotten homes? The point is that you had helped them
during the time that had passed before they got homes.
Similarly, if you submit a book to Bookshare and put in
a lot of work to do that then you help Bookshare patrons
up until the time that they are replaced. If you really
want your work to last, though, then work on the safe
publishers list or work on old books.
>>>
>>>On 1/16/2012 7:53 AM, Kelly Pierce wrote:
>>>> I have noticed that older titles from 20 to 30
years ago or more
>>>> rarely are available in electronic form for
Bookshare to convert,
>>>> unless the title was extremely popular or had
consistently good sales.
>>>> These older titles will likely only become
accessible to people with
>>>> disabilities by scanning even if Bookshare has a
relationship with the
>>>> publisher.
>>>>
>>>> Kelly
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1/15/12, Roger Loran Bailey<rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> I am pretty sure that Penguin is on the safe
list. Hey Alisa, I think it
>>>>> might be about time to forward us the latest
version of that safe and
>>>>> unsafe list along with the next wish and books
being scanned lists.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/15/2012 5:24 PM, Van Lant Family wrote:
>>>>>> HI all,
>>>>>> I have been slowly cleaning up a book I
scanned for myself last
>>>>>> summer. There's a fair amount of formatting
issues and lines that
>>>>>> didn't scan cleanly that I'll have to work
on, so it's a slow
>>>>>> process.. It isn't in the collection
already, but I just noticed that
>>>>>> it's published by a subsidiary or partner
of Penguin. I'm thinking
>>>>>> Penguin is on our PQ list, so I'm
wondering if it's worth
>>>>>> proceeding. Two other books I scanned in
the last year got rejected
>>>>>> because a PQ edition beat them into the
collection. Of course, a PQ
>>>>>> version of this book would be way better
than all the work, but it was
>>>>>> such a funny book that I wanted others to
be able to have access to
>>>>>> this. The book is called "MILK MEMOS
>>>>>> HOW REAL MOMS LEARNED TO MIX BUSINESS WITH
BABIES AND HOW YOU CAN, TOO".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just wondering how the rest of you decide
whether a book you wanted
>>>>>> for yourself anyway is worth it when the
publisher might add a PQ
>>>>>> version.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robin
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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