[bksvol-discuss] Re: Puzzling Problem
- From: Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 10:25:22 -0800
It is very unlikely that preliminary pages are actually numbered in
the print book starting from 'i', usually the first page with a
printed page number will be a preface or foreword or similar. Some
other pages will be counted, such as the copyright info page, but will
not have any page number indication in the printed book.
All of this is to say that I would not be at all surprised if the
first page with a roman numeral is ix.
On 8/29/09, Mayrie ReNae <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Jill,
>
> Can we be certain that the roman numerals aren't printed in the books?
> I know, for instance, that without exception, I never get page numbers
> containing single digits to scan and have to insert them. I have checked,
> and again, without exception, they are in the books that I have scanned. Do
> you think it's possible that said Roman Numerals are in the books and are
> not scanning or are scanning as unrecognizable junk?
>
> Mayrie
>
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>
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> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jill O'Connell
> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 10:55 AM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Puzzling Problem
>
>
> Since Bookshare has made such a point about not making any changes in the
> books we scan including obvious printing errors, I consider adding numbers
> that aren't printed in the book making changes.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bob <mailto:rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 10:38 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Puzzling Problem
>
> Sure there's lower-case roman numerals. They are the ones not in caps.
>
> I think many books begin their books with lower-case roman numerals. But,
> don't know for sure.
>
> Besides, it's just a suggestion, do it, don't do it, do some of it. It's
> your call.
>
> Bob
>
> "We know the future will outlast all of us, but I believe that all of us
> will live on in the future we make,"
> Senator Edward M. Kennedy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jill <mailto:jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx> O'Connell
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 11:46 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Puzzling Problem
>
> Mayrie, I'm curious to know what census came up with the idea of lower case
> Roman numerals; is there even such a thing?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mayrie <mailto:mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> ReNae
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 5:05 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Puzzling Problem
>
> Hi Lori,
>
> It isn't exact, but I have experienced what you are talking about. I
> just number backward from roman numeral ix and if there are pages before
> roman numeral i, well, then, I just leave them unnumbered.
>
> Often there are pages before what the publisher seemed to consider the
> first page of the book containing raves and things like that that they seem
> not to consider pages.
>
> Why do we number the preliminary pages? Because it makes sense, I
> guess. And I assume that if the publisher actually numbered a page ix, then
> it seems sensible that said publisher considered, or even did (but they
> didn't scan) number the pages before that page with the preceding roman
> numerals.
>
> This is not a step required by bookshare. Remember that bookshare only
> requires that a book have all of its pages, an accurate copyright page and
> title page, and 90% of page breaks, with the 90% of page numbers being in
> the works to be required. The rest of what we have written about in our
> documentation for proofreading and scanning are the things that a concensus
> of quite a few people consider the best way to create the most readable
> books possible. Since bookshare only requires the things I've mentioned
> above, as Bob says, I guess the rest are just suggestions.
>
> I do want to say that a lot of experience and conversation did go into
> creating the suggestions that we created. And we didn't decide anything just
> because we felt like making more work for ourselves or for other people.
>
> I'm sorry everything isn't exact and set in stone. Or anywhere near
> perfect in every single situation.
>
> Mayrie
>
>
>
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>
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lori Castner
> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 4:11 AM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Puzzling Problem
>
>
> Hi, Everyone,
>
> I have a very minor puzzling situation in a book I'm proofreading.
>
> In one of the newer documents on what to do as a proofreader, it states that
> we are to number preliminary pages with lower case Roman numerals beginning
> with i.
>
> However, in this book I am proofing, the acknowledgments begin on IX (Roman
> numeral nine), but there are ten actual pages before the acknowledgments
> begin. One is a blank page which I can remove, but even so there will still
> be nine preliminary pages before the first page with a page number, Roman
> numeral nine. Do I begin my lower case numerals with zero--is there a Roman
> numeral for zero?
>
> And why are we numbering these unnumbered preliminary pages anyway?
>
> Bob, I'm waiting for a humorous answer from you, but also seriously what do
> I do when the number of unnumbered pages is greater than the lower case
> numerals?
>
> Lori C.
>
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