[bksvol-discuss] Re: Proofing: Many Questions
- From: "Sandi Ryan" <sjryan2@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 10:31:34 -0600
I'll try this, Mary. Not sure--but it kind of sounds like, at least if it's an
OpenBook problem, it might work. I'll try a few pages and see. This would at
least let me know whether it's an OpenBook or a Word conversion problem.
Sandi
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From: Mayrie ReNae
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 10:25 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Proofing: Many Questions
Hi Sandi,
The idea that I have is totally clunky, but I wonder: If you scan a few pages
of a book, recognizing in the native format of your scanning software, then
select all of the document and then copy and paste that text into Word, saving
as an rtf document, what happens? Are paragraph marks accurate then? Could
you, in theory, scan a book and then select, copy, and paste it into Word then
save the whole thing as an rtf document, and have a representation that is
accurate?
I know it's clunky, but would/does that work, do you think? Would that
create more problems?
Just wondering. Please ignore the idea if it's way too cumbersome.
Mayrie
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sandi Ryan
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 8:18 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Proofing: Many Questions
Hi James,
Since I'm the person writing lots of questions on this topic previously,
here's what I've learned:
If you get no paragraphs, try a different format. For example, for me,
scanning directly into DOC format for Word removes all paragraph marks.
Scanning in RTF puts a paragraph mark at the end of each line, even when I'm
not retaining exact view. This means I have to go through by line and strip
unnecessary paragraph marks, but it makes the paragraphs a bit more obvious
than having everything run together.
What scanning software are you using? I'm using OpenBook 8.0, and I've not
yet found the answer. My best answer so far, if you're a blind person, is to
find a proofreader with some vision willing to check formatting, especially
paragraphing, for you, and then make your best guess with paragraphs before
sending it to them. This is a lot more work for a blind scanner, since we can
only guess--or make even more work by scanning and then using an Optacon or
something to find paragraphs, but I love scanning, and have become part of a
team that works well for me.
I have come to the conclusion that the issue, at least for me, is a setting
in either OpenBook or Word that adds paragraph marks when converting to RTF or
strips them when converting to DOC. I haven't tried using ARK or OBX formats
for scanning, because the problem isn't in scanning the book, so far as I can
tell, but in converting it to a format I want to use for correcting and sending
to Bookshare.
Anyway, I don't know if this will help, but it's my latest knowledge.
Sandi
----- Original Message -----
From: Homme, James
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 9:57 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Proofing: Many Questions
Hi Mayrie,
Even if it's my best guess?
Thanks.
Jim
From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mayrie ReNae
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 10:49 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Proofing: Many Questions
Hi Jim,
Yes, often OCR runs paragraphs together. Please insert paragraph marks
where they belong.
Mayrie
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From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Homme, James
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 7:25 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Proofing: Many Questions
Hi,
I'm getting back into proofing after a very long absence.
First question: Should I put in paragraph breaks if it looks like the scan
jammed everything together? It seems obvious from context that paragraphs are
run together.
Thanks.
Jim
Jim Homme,
Usability Services,
Phone: 412-544-1810.
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