[bksvol-discuss] Re: Pearl by Tabitha King

  • From: "Mike and Lori Castner" <mandlcastner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 09:12:31 -0700

Hi Carrie,
I don't want to know about every scanno you find in a book I have validated.  
If you feel the need to send my book back to step one for some reason I would 
like to be contacted with an explanation.  Chances are that I could fix the 
problem, and even if I can't fix the problem it might be something I could 
avoid in future books.
Mike
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Carrie Karnos 
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 7:20 PM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Pearl by Tabitha King


  Hi gang,

  Just to set the record straight, probably 80% of the books that I approve 
with an excellent rating have got a few junk characters or scannos in them. But 
since the vast majority of pages are fine, I let the errors go. Amber just 
re-edited and re-uploaded Pearl to the approval queue.  The book is much 
better, it doesn't have nearly the number of junk characters that it did 
before, but because Amber wanted to be told if there were any other junk 
characters, I'm going through the book with a fine-tooth comb, looking for any 
and all errors. I'm on page 86 out of 350 and I have found 13 errors so far. 
Most of them are trivial, but since she wanted to know, I'm doing this for her. 
If I return all books that have any errors at all in them, I'd be returning 80% 
of the approved books for more editing. Do you all want this?  Do you want 100% 
perfect books?  I try to make the bestsellers perfect, but I'm a deranged 
perfectionist, as we all know. 
  How's this for a compromise?  If you're happy with me letting some errors go 
through with your books, no need to say anything. If you want me to return your 
books for more editing if I find over,... let's say 10, errors, then tell me 
you want me to do a super-check of your books. It will require lots more work 
on both your part and on my part, so think carefully before you sign up for 
this.  
  [I have to say at this point that there are several validators who always 
upload books with fewer than 10 errors. Whenever I see their names, I breathe a 
sigh of relief because I know their books will have no junk characters, no 
scannos, no missing pages, no duplicate pages, no unwieldy font sizes, no weird 
formatting, no messed-up fractions or charts or maps, just page after page of 
beautiful text. Dave Russell, Marilyn Beasley, our summer intern Shuqiao Song, 
the tag team of Louise Gourdoux and Jim Baugh - and I'm sure there are others 
who I can't think of right now. They all do beautiful work.]

  Carrie



  ----- Original Message ----
  From: Ann McCay <annmccay@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Sent: Friday, August 8, 2008 10:34:51 AM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Pearl by Tabitha King


  I would have wanted, as a submitter, to be told, and I'd certainly have 
wanted to fix the book. I would have been upset if I were not given that option 
and everybody else's weight into not having the submitter have the option to 
work with the problem was what had been done.



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  From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carrie Karnos
  Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 5:22 PM
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Pearl by Tabitha King


  Hi Sue,

  When I return a book for more editing, I have 2 options. I can return the 
book that the original person submitted, or I can return the validated copy. 
99% of the time I return the validated copy, retaining all the changes that the 
validator made. Only when the validator deletes all the page breaks in a book 
(as happened last week) or when the validator deletes some pages or something 
drastic like that, do I return the original book from the submitter. Given that 
I can retain all the validation changes, would you like me to return the book 
for more editing?
  Looks like there are 2 votes for more editing, and no votes for the other 
options. This means I should be even more fussy than I already am. That's fine 
with me, I would rather allow only well-validated books into the collection, 
but I'm afraid that the volunteer group will start a mutiny if I return 3 out 
of every 10 books in the approval queue instead of 1 out of every 10 books like 
I do now (I'm guessing at these numbers - I haven't kept track, to be honest). 
Okay, unless I hear otherwise, I will go into super-fussy mode :-)

  Carrie



  ----- Original Message ----
  From: siss52 <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Sent: Friday, August 8, 2008 8:48:41 AM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Pearl by Tabitha King



  Hi Carrie,

  I woould vote against returning it for more editing since the copy kicked 
back would be the submitter's work only, not the book after validation.

  Therefore, may I make another suggestion?  Could you return the book to Step 
1 in the RTF file that was uploaded to the approval queue, with a comment 
telling what is wrong and requesting more editing?

  Just my thoughts,

  Sue S.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Carrie Karnos 
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 5:10 PM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Pearl by Tabitha King


  I changed the book rating from excellent to good when I approved it because 
there are some junk characters on some pages (like the very last page in the 
book). If there were just a few junk characters, I'd leave it as excellent. If 
there were loads, I'd return it for more editing. This book was right on the 
fence. So my question to the group is: what do you want me to do when a book 
has some junk characters, more than a few but less than loads?  The choices are:
  1) leave it as excellent
  2) return it for more editing
  3) change the rating to good
  Have I missed another option?
  What's your vote?

  Thanks!  Carrie



  ----- Original Message ----
  From: Amber Wallenstein <amber.wallens@xxxxxxxxx>
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Sent: Friday, August 8, 2008 8:03:40 AM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Pearl by Tabitha King


  Hi all:
  Did anyone on this list validate Pearl by Tabitha King?  I worked really hard 
on it, and I noticed it had a "good" rating, instead of an "excellent" rating.  
Does anyone know why? I always want to improve my scans and I'm baffled why 
this gets a "good" rating.  It has a lot of dialogue but that's all I can think 
of.
  Thanks.
  Amber
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consented to my own ruin, to your ruin, and to the ruin of our children. I give
  you this warning that you may prepare your mind for your fate.
  John Adams
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