Reggie, The Boxcar children book is my submission. Chapter one starts on page one and the pages with pictures do not have numbers but are included in the page count. I can't remember if i had someone describe pictures to me for that one or not but know there were several. Also the page number for the first page of each chapter is on the bottom of the page while subsequent pages of the chapter have them at the top. HTH, Natasha & Fossey "Organizing is what you do before you do something, so that when you do it, it's not all mixed up." - A. A. Milne And by the way, everything in life is writable about if you have the outgoing guts to do it, and the imagination to improvise. The worst enemy to creativity is self-doubt. -Sylvia Plath email: guidingpaws@xxxxxxxxxxx