[bksvol-discuss] Re: Fractions in bookshare files for Braille readers

  • From: "Roger Loran Bailey" <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 10:36:16 -0400

Actually, what my screen reader says is one one slash two. It does frequently read a string of digits as digits instead of as a single number. For example, 1917 is often read as one nine one seven rather than nineteen seventeen or one thousand nine hundred seventeen and that can sometimes lead to uncertainty unless I slow it down and make it read one character at a time. That is why it seems to me that a hyphen would remove that uncertainty. Let me add, though, that I do not have much interest in recipe books. Nevertheless, I have proofread some because they seemed to be pretty easy. It was later that I learned on this list that the fractions can be messed up by the OCR and those errors are not necessarily readily apparent. So since I am not particularly interested in them anyway I stopped proofreading recipe books. It does worry me, though, that the ones I did proofread might now be in the collection with false information in them.



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----- Original Message ----- From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 1:38 AM
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Hi Roger,

Your screen reader is not going to say 11/2 if there is a space between the 1's in the fraction 1 1/2. I think the space is fine. It just isn't always
put in by proofreaders.

Mayrie



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Like I said, with a screen reader putting a space only between the whole
number and the fraction can make it unclear whether what is being read is
one and a half or eleven halves. A hyphen would work for me at least. That
does not adhere strictly to the print copy though, so I am not quite sure it
is allowed.


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Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 8:27 PM
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Hi
I know in Braille it is 1 1/2 buteven with the space I'vehad scanned
fractions come up saying 11/2 (eleven half), would putting in a hyphon
or dash work?
Maureen

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Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 11:00 AM
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In print one and a half is written 1 1/2. There is a space between
the whole number and the fraction. When listening to that with a
screen reader, though, it is not always apparent that the space is
there unless one slows down the screen reader to spell it out. I
suppose in a recipe it is not likely that one will come across eleven
halves, but other fractions may not be so apparent. That makes me
wonder if it would be good to come up with some way to seperate the
whole number from the fraction so that a screen reader would read the
seperation.


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kim Friedman" <kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 5:04 AM
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Braille readers


Hi, Pam I would write 1/2 or 1/4 or 1-1/8. When I see fractions, the
slash goes between the numerator and the denominator without spaces.
Hope this helps. Regards, Kim Friedman. P.S.: One of my pet peeves
is seeing a mixed fraction (such as 1-1/2 being written 1 1/2. K.

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Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 6:13 PM
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Hey all,


I'm coming across a bunch of fractions for recipes in the book that
I'm proofing.  For Braille readers, is the 1 / 2 format better than
the symbol 1 over 2 in one individual space (sorry I can't make this
symbol in e-mail).
Any preference?

Thanks for your thoughts,

Pam



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