[bksvol-discuss] Re: For Gwen and Robert

  • From: "gwen tweedy" <gstweedy@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:56:26 -0600

I too assumed that those books would go very fast simply from  things I have 
read here from time to time.
I think they are getting lost in the admin cue now that would be up to him to 
correct me if I am wrong.
And yes for me, if I were a proof reader, except for some of the books he's 
helped me with, I wouldn't read them either I just can't read those kinds of 
books. 
As for my books, I've learned a lot, I feel that even as much as recently I 
have gotten better, but as for myself, I am keenly aware that my books might be 
as fast on the uptake because of my past reputation as a new scanner.
So I understand that, and can now deal with that.
If I find that I am not making it I promise you, I'll be the first to leave 
volunteering altogether, because I  do not need nor want to be in the way of 
good reading material here bookshare is so famous for.
I promise you, I would not want anyone putting up junk from me that would not 
be fair to y'all.
Some things you can learn, some things a person can't and if I fail to get it, 
then I'm out of here lock stock and barrel.
Most here scan and proof excellently, and I would no more  tarnish that  
reputation for this whole world.
It was my hope when I first  put my name up to be a  volunteer to put up more 
of the Christian type of books, if not Christian wholesome books  those my  
grandma would care to read.
But that wholly has not happened,  from a number of factors of my own making 
the buck stops here as it were.
If I fail to meet this my personal goal, that at that time, which could be 
today, tomorrow, or perhaps never then I would bow out and leave it to those 
who know best.
I wish I could proof books, but I've bungled scans lord knows what I'd do to a 
proof.
Plus there are so many rules to proofing my lands I couldn't keep up with them 
all, that is to hard for me simple  mind LOL.
I most likely should have just stuck to reading it would have been a lot less 
trouble for us all.
You have a wonderful day,
Gwen

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Monica Willyard 
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 3:26 PM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] For Gwen and Robert


  Gwen, you're right. Robert is an experienced and valuable member of our 
community. Robert, how many books do you have that are waiting to be approved? 
Are they on step 1 or in the admin queue? 

  Gwen, there are several factors in play regarding Robert's books. I don't 
know if you're aware of all of these, so I thought I'd share them. Some of them 
can probably be addressed by people on this list. Others can't.

  On the staff side, Carrie was on vacation for a week before Thanksgiving. 
Also, most of the staff had some time off last week for the holiday. I have 
found that she generally approves books from volunteers within 24 to 48 hours 
of their entry into the admin queue. Carrie used to be a volunteer just like 
us, and she remembers the frustration of waiting and waiting for a book to be 
approved. She has worked with Robert as a fellow volunteer as well and knows of 
his skills and flexible attitude.

  From here, it looks like the bottleneck right now is in getting books 
proofread. The number of books on step 1 is piling up again. Our number of 
active volunteers and their preferences for reading determine how fast a book 
is processed. This factor affects everyone who submits books. For awhile 
everyone was worried about not having any books to work on. Some people quit 
looking for new books on step 1 because of all of the books with holds on them. 
Now there are a lot of excellent books needing a proofreader.

  The other factor, on a more personal level, is hard for me to explain. Robert 
is a consistent and dedicated volunteer. I respect him for his dedication and 
teamwork. Yet I am hesitant to take his books for a personal reason. In the 
past, Robert has been willing to scan some adult-rated content for Bookshare. 
It's my perception that much of what he scans would be classified as steamy 
romances. I prefer not to read the steamier books. This isn't about Robert or 
his skills as a submitter. It's about me and what I want to read. I generally 
don't like to draw attention to this issue since I think it's a personal one on 
my part. Since I feel uncomfortable asking Robert which books are adult, I let 
others take his books when he submits. I figured it would make him angry if I 
asked about it. If I am wrong about what Robert submits, I apologize and take 
full responsibility for not checking out my assumptions with him.

  I think what I'm saying is that we might do a better job of communicating 
with each other. I know I need to do that. I didn't know that Robert's books 
weren't getting added to the collection. I also assumed that most people are 
more comfortable with adult content than I am and that those would be done 
quickly. I could be wrong on both counts.

  The last thing I want is for you or Robert to feel ignored or unappreciated. 
I don't have an immediate solution. I think we could find ways to work this out 
together, with the help of the Bookshare community. It would help us fix the 
problem if we know exactly what's going on, if the books are on step 1, or are 
they getting lost in the admin queue.

  Monica Willyard
  "The best way to predict the future is to create it." -- Peter Drucker




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  At 10:32 AM 11/30/2009, you wrote:

    I think a timely manner is the key.
    And those who have scanned for years and their books are good, and everyone 
knows they are good, to me there shouldn't be a delay.
    Some books get up there right away, so what is the difference  in books?
     Especially those of like  Robert's when his books have been tried and true 
for a long time.
     Eventually  volunteers  are gonna quit submitting books, because they 
aren't getting anywhere. Some books stay up there for a long time.
    It's grand for   kids books grand for grants, but I think they are 
forgetting the  submitters  especially those hard working ones like Bob who 
turns in a quality scan each and every time not like his wife who turns no 
quality scans LOL.
    I understand me, but Bob that is different.
    His should go right away.
    Gwen
     

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: robert tweedy 

      To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

      Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 11:58 AM

      Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: What is the main concern these days?


      That's fine as long as our books get into the system on a timey matter. 

        ----- Original Message ----- 

        From: Denise Thompson 

        To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

        Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 2:50 PM

        Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: What is the main concern these days?


        I think BKS's concern is to do books that fit their grant money. 
educational which seems to be most books for kids and teens in addition to text 
books, of course. Adult books don't seem to be educational- especially those 
that have some romance in them. Since they have out-sourcers and do their grant 
books with them as well as in house, I feel like I need to continue to scan 
adult books for the rest of us who aren't students and who don't want to read 
kids books and teen books. 

        Denise



          
        At 09:32 AM 11/30/2009, you wrote:

          I've noticed a strong emphasis on children's books as well. This is 
wonderful, so long as it isn't at the expense of books for us adults, too.


          Melissa



          robert tweedy wrote:

            I am just wondering about bookshare policy of submitted books. 
Taking a look at the cue, it looks like children's books which is okay but what 
about books that are just for pleasure.
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