[bksvol-discuss] Re: Different fonts in a book

  • From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:47:04 -0800 (PST)

Thanks for the reply, John.

Cindy

--- bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Pratik sums this issue up pretty well.  Please keep
> scanning your books and focus on scanno cleanup.  
> There are 2 different issues at play here.
> #1: Should you strive to preserve the font that a
> book was scanned or OCRed into?  This is not
> necessary, as it doesn't effect the readability of
> the book.
> #2: Should you preserve contextual formatting, such
> as use of bold or italics?  When this affects the
> meaning or emphasis as intended by the author, yes,
> please do the best you can.
> 
> 
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Pratik Patel
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 11:44 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Different fonts in a
> book
> 
> 
> This argument seems to rear its ugly head again and
> again.  We certainly understand the limitation of
> the current conversion process.  However there is
> certainly the possibility that These books will be
> reprocessed at some point from the original source
> (i.e., RTF) to Braille and DAISY with the formatting
> changes intact.  So, there's no reason why
> formatting (including font size and attributes)
> should not be preserved.  I for one, do appreciate
> Cindy's and other volunteers' efforts to preserve as
> much of the formatting as they can.  So please keep
> on doing what you have been doing.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Pratik
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Grandma Cindy
> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 2:18 AM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Different fonts in a
> book
> 
> That's interesting information, too.  But re your
> last sentence, I think you should do what makes you
> conmfortable in your own reading. It's not necessary
> to adjust just because the different fonts are
> there. I've noticed that in some sentences the flow
> of the sentence  causes a word to be emphasized
> whether it is italicised or not. In some of my
> validations, it's that emphasis that I mentally hear
> in my reading that cause me to look at the book to
> see if the word is in italics, and it is. But it
> isn't really necessary, except I suppose the author
> doesn't want to take any chances that a reader might
> not mentally hear it that way.
> 
> Cindy
> 
> --- Monica Willyard <plumlipstick@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > Cindy, one of the cool things about using rtf and
> > Microsoft Word is
> > that we actually can have our screenreader use a
> > different voice for 
> > bold or italic words and headings.  We can also
> have
> > the screenreader 
> > use a different voice for quoted text or text that
> > changes fonts or 
> > colors.  The problem is that the files we get from
> > Bookshare are in 
> > Daisy format, not RTF, and don't seem to have the
> > special formatting 
> > in them.  I can still have my screenreader speak
> > quoted text in a 
> > different voice though, and that helps with dialog
> > sometimes.  I 
> > can't speak for all screenreaders, but I know that
> > JAWS does a nice 
> > job of speaking changes in fonts and such in Word
> > and other 
> > programs.  Even so, this feature is something I
> > think many of us 
> > reserve for proofreading and may not turn on
> during
> > reading for 
> > pleasure since knowing a font's name doesn't tell
> me
> > what it looks 
> > like.  I haven't bothered with it in my
> submissions
> > because I didn't 
> > think it would translate into the Daisy format. 
> For
> > compatibility 
> > with speech, I've been putting my fonts in both
> > submissions and 
> > validations as Times New Roman, 10 points.  When I
> > get the Daisy 
> > format of my books, it shows up as Arial, 10
> points.
> >   If we find 
> > that fonts are being retained, I will have to work
> > harder to notice 
> > things like fonts and won't adjust them for
> comfort
> > in my own reading.
> > 
> > Monica Willyard
> > 
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