Dan, The "85% clear skies average" must mean that it's somewhat sunny for a good part of the day. It has little bearing on the sort of clear sky astronomers are interested in. Fortunately, we have the truth in the form of cloudiness data that Brian Skiff has been gathering since 1980. We discussed this subject on AZ-Observing as recently as 2007. //www.freelists.org/post/az-observing/Flagstaff-nighttime-cloudinesssky -brightness,6 Note the lack of any real trend in yearly cloudiness. While troughs typically don't come this far south in April, it's typically not a very good month for observing. Climate change is happening, but I doubt that Arizona's astronomical viewing conditions have been impacted by it yet. Tom Original Message: ----------------- From: Dan Heim dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:48:10 -0700 To: az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [AZ-Observing] Re: Snow When I moved here back in 78 the NWS stats put AZ at 85% clear skies as an annual average. That's about one outa 7 days cloudy. There is NO way we have been averaging that over the last few years. Don't tell me climate change isn't happening. Here in New River (2200 ft) we used to get snow (briefly) on the ground maybe once every other year. I haven't seen any in 4-5 years now. Dan Heim President Desert Foothills Astronomy Club http://www.dfacaz.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stan Gorodenski" <stanlep@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "AZ-Observing" <az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 2:27 PM Subject: [AZ-Observing] Snow > Snow flurries up here at my place in Dewey on April 15th. Sure has been > a bad past month. What happened to the famed Arizona skies? > Stan > -- > See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please > send personal replies to the author, not the list. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.285 / Virus Database: 270.11.57/2060 - Release Date: 04/15/09 06:34:00 -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list. -------------------------------------------------------------------- myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft® Windows® and Linux web and application hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.