Shaun, Possibly due to luck, I've experienced the best seeing I've ever experienced at Sentinel. Two of the four times I went there (1997-99 timeframe), it was amazingly steady. It may be due to the fact that the place sits far from any mountains(?). Sentinel is certainly a site I'd recommend, and I go there with my little Mazda Protege. Super dark too. And not far from the freeway in case your car breaks down, etc. I'm in the Tucson area, so usually observe from around there (I live on the west side). The road to Empire is a little rougher (it used to be very much so, but was graded last year). This is my main site for observing these days. It's very dark, and the seeing is not too bad. Timpa is a little brighter, being closer to town. I go there too, but prefer Empire since it's further from sky glow. It takes a drive on a dirt road to get to Timpa too, although not as much. Timpa takes about 2 miles on a dirt road. Empire takes something like 4. Empire involves a rougher ride (cattle guards, a wash with a concrete pad overlay, etc.). I go to both sites with a compact car. Of course mine is a vintage 93 car (not a collector's edition type). Nevertheless, getting to either site probably won't do too much to your car. The biggest issue is dust accumulation, and gravel being tossed up beneath the car. But this can be reduced by going slower. Hope to see you at an observing session some time. ----- Original Message ----- From: Shaun Dixon <shauninorbit@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 5:16 PM Subject: [AZ-Observing] Observing sites in Arizona > > List Members, > > Ive been lurking on the list for awhile now, and now that I have gotten most > of my parts for my first telescope, I am almost ready to do some real > observing. I reviewed some of the information on Tom's website [found at > http://www.psiaz.com/polakis/azsites/azsites.html ]. There seems to be two > decent sites in the Tucson area, one being the Empire Ranch and the other > the newer TIMPA site. TIMPA is alot closer to me than Empire Ranch which > appears to be way south of tucson (I live on the Northwest side). I have yet > to go to either. > > MY question is about 2 sites. Sentinel and Vekol Ranch. According to Toms > site it mentions "Very little traffic travels on Vekol Road". How are the > roads to both sites? It will be mostly Highway to these sites, which is cool > (and I love to drive) but my car can not handle dirt roads very well unless > mantained nicely. Its a tiny Nissan Sentra and sits maybe 4 or so inches off > the ground. If the roads are not all that great, how far would it be to park > at the beggining of them and walk to the actuall observing site? > > Thanks for any info... > > Shaun - Tucson, AZ > AIM == AZSentraXER > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > --- > This message is from the AZ-Observing mailing list. If you wish to be > removed from this list, send E-mail to: AZ-Observing-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, > with the subject: unsubscribe. > > The list's archive is at: //www.freelists.org/archives/az-observing > > This is a discussion list. Please send personal inquiries directly to > the message author. In other words, do not use "reply" for personal > messages. Thanks. > > > --- This message is from the AZ-Observing mailing list. If you wish to be removed from this list, send E-mail to: AZ-Observing-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, with the subject: unsubscribe. The list's archive is at: //www.freelists.org/archives/az-observing This is a discussion list. Please send personal inquiries directly to the message author. In other words, do not use "reply" for personal messages. Thanks.