Tom, Stan, The 27 Pan would be my recommendation. I'm converting my Meade SWA and UWA eyepieces to Pans and Naglers. I had my 14" f/4.5 at a dark site last new moon. The contrast improvement of the 27 Pan over the Meade 32 SWA wasn't subtle on things like M8, M20, ... . The 27 Pan is $330, but in my view (pun intended) worth the expense. Steve Bell Boise -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.