On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:19:52 +1100 (EST), Michael Edward Granat wrote: >Dear Bruce (White), > >>From recent discussions here on the same topic, those dead= keen >>developer types, >using UNIX (with FrameMaker on that platform) can write their= own >macros in something horrid like the VI notepad development= tool. > >Yes there are tools to write (as in hand tool from scratch)= macros >(probably in C or C++, on UNIX) for FrameMaker, but there is no >macro <<recording>> facility built into the product. > Sorry, but this is an old furphy that seems to pop up here periodically. UNIX Framemaker +does+ have macro keystroke recording, and has had for years.. as far back as about v3.0, if I recall correctly.. and maybe earlier ? >From p577 , FrameMaker 7 manual (UNIX Macros and Utilities): "A macro can do anything you can do in FrameMaker, except the following: + Pause for keyboard input and then continue + Record mouse clicks or mouse movements + Record the F10 keyboard shortcut that moves focus to the menu= bar + Record the F4 keyboard shortcut that displays the appropriate context (shortcut) menu + Record Japanese characters To record a macro in UNIX: 1. Choose File > Utilities > Keyboard Macros. 2. Click Record a New Macro, click Begin, and then click OK 3. Type the keystrokes you want FrameMaker to record...." .... etc Meanwhile, back in Windows, there is FrameScript ($$s), and if= you want to do file saving manipulations in a batch file -- like= opening a file, saving to PDF, MIF, closing a file etc.. the free dzbatcher utility automates these "remote" actions via command= line or batch commands. MIF (and probably shortly, XML) output and input makes FrameMaker= more useful when you want to program extensive automatic changes= etc to your Frame docs. I use dzbatcher via a perl script to save= files and books of files to MIF (formatted-text based files), and= change them as required [it helps to know what you're doing in MIF or= XML]. I do things like checking documents into CVS en masse, where they= pick up versioning data useful for doc control, then checking= them out to reconvert to Frame format, finally producing PDF= versions. That's one of the simpler exercises. Access to the MIF version with regular expressions, for example,= allows you to do an awful lot more than Word macros are likely= to. But you do have to know your MIF. It +sounds like+ the coming 7.1 version due in Jan 2004 sometime= may make things even easier if the ease and quality of the XML export= import processes is improved. BTW, macros in UNIX FrameMaker don't seem to make it vulnerable= to a Word virus -- or is that a repetitive phrase ??? :-) -Peter G. Martin, Technical writer, Proxima Technology ************************************************** To post a message to austechwriter, send the message to austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe to austechwriter, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject field. To unsubscribe, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject field. To search the austechwriter archives, go to www.freelists.org/archives/austechwriter To contact the list administrator, send a message to austechwriter-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx **************************************************