Does that mean they'll finally put in more than one level of undo :)! ----- Original Message ----- From: Warren Lewington <wjlewington@xxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Thursday, December 18, 2003 9:44 pm Subject: atw: Re: Who Uses What and Legacy Document Conversion (Word > Frame) > Melanie, the official word from Adobe is that FrameMaker will have to > continue, though the more flamboyant and glossy print/magazine style > formatting with graphical edges will be taken up by InDesign... > > Great news. > > Warren. > -----Original Message----- > From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of melanie.kendell > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 10:46 AM > To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: atw: Re: Who Uses What and Legacy Document Conversion > (Word > > Frame) > > > > Hi Mick > > If you're investigating a move away from the evil empire, you may want > to consider all the alternatives: > > Frame - Adobe still can't make up their mind whether they are > going to > continue to fully support Frame and therefore it suffers from it's own > batch of nastiness (eg one level of undo). The biggest issue with > usingFrame though, is sharing content with Word users in the rest > of the > organisation. Conversion from Word is hard enough to make it a one way > street. There is some support for XML but it is not native to the file > format. > > WebWorks - A lot of work to set up to run properly (if you're used to > HDK/RoboHelp type tools you might get a bit of a shock as to just how > much work) but does a decent job when you finally get there. > > XML - Probably the best way to future-proof your documentation at the > moment, but the learning curve is very, very, steep and shouldn't be > entered into without a good reason to go down that path just yet. > (Thatsaid, where I am now, we *are* going down that path because > we have > large areas of reuse, translation issues, etc, and therefore > require a > CMS - and XML is the best thing to feed a CMS). The same issues with > sharing content with Word users comes up. > > OpenOffice - Plays pretty well with Word docs (I've heard that > only the > most complicated sometimes need a bit of a fix up - personally I > haven'tneeded to do any) and seems to be able to be flipped back > and forward as > needed. It has an XML-based file format so it is reasonably > future-proofed. I haven't played with it that extensively but I was > pleasantly surprised. Not sure what tools are out there to assist > you to > pump out different media formats though (HTML, online help, etc). > > As for what's the "industry standard", if you go by "what is the most > used" statistics you'll find that Word wins hands down. If your > aim is > to get away from Word I would use different arguments than statistics. > > Hope that gives you food for thought. > -Melanie Kendell > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mick Washbrooke <MickWashbrooke@xxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 10:00 am > Subject: atw: Who Uses What and Legacy Document Conversion (Word > > Frame) > > > We're considering moving from our currently inadequate Microsft > Word > > environment to a FrameMaker/WebWorks Publisher combination for > our doc > > > development platform. To bolster our case for moving away from > the > > evilMicrosoft Word, our manager has asked us to come up with > > statistics on which doc development platform (or combination of > tools) > > is considered the "industry standard" in Australia. Does anyone > know > > where I might find such > > statistics? > > I've also been researching what kind of pre-processing I might > > have to do on > > our legacy .rtf files to facilitate the conversion of these docs to > > FrameMaker; i.e., removing page and section breaks, embedded > > graphics, etc. > > If anyone has any tips, they'd be greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks > > ------------------------------------- > > Mick Washbrooke > > CITECT > > Tel: 9496-7432 > > mickwashbrooke@xxxxxxxxxx > > www.citect.com > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > --------- > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ************************************************** > > To post a message to austechwriter, send the message to > > austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe to austechwriter, send a message to austechwriter- > > request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject field. > > > > To unsubscribe, send a message to austechwriter- > request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > with "unsubscribe" in the Subject field. > > > > To search the austechwriter archives, go to > > www.freelists.org/archives/austechwriter > > To contact the list administrator, send a message to > austechwriter- > > > admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx**************************************************> > > > > ************************************************** > To post a message to austechwriter, send the message to > austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe to austechwriter, send a message to > austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject > field. > > To unsubscribe, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with "unsubscribe" in the Subject field. > > To search the austechwriter archives, go to > www.freelists.org/archives/austechwriter > > To contact the list administrator, send a message to > austechwriter-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ************************************************** > > > ************************************************** > To post a message to austechwriter, send the message to > austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe to austechwriter, send a message to austechwriter- > request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject field. > > To unsubscribe, send a message to austechwriter- > request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject field. > > To search the austechwriter archives, go to > www.freelists.org/archives/austechwriter > To contact the list administrator, send a message to austechwriter- > admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx************************************************** > ************************************************** To post a message to austechwriter, send the message to austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe to austechwriter, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject field. 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